its just in your head"
I would have been like 'ya think?' . It's not like it's a chemical imbalance of your elbow. Dumb bastard.
ApagaLaLuz
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Were You Treated With Respect When Counseled By The Elders?
by minimus ini knew a certain few elders that really got off by "talking down" to the "flock".
many elders were pretty nice guys but a few could turn----just like that!
what was your experience with "those taking the lead", the "loving shepherds"???
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ApagaLaLuz
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Who's been around the most?
by blobby in.
how far travelled are you?.
how many different countries have you visited in your life time.......................can't name the same country twice ....even if it has changed names.. countries on other planets don't count !.
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ApagaLaLuz
Oh to live in Europe and have the luxury of easier travel!!!
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Humour T - shirts
by kls ini received this catalog in the mail and some of the saying on the shirts are so funny.
#1, i see you're playing stupid again .
look's like you're winning .
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ApagaLaLuz
I bought 2 of my guy friends shirts that say "Mr. Pitt" and "Mr. Kutcher"
I also saw one the other day that says "Lower your Standards" and keeps repeating itself all the way down the front of the shirt :)
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Were You Treated With Respect When Counseled By The Elders?
by minimus ini knew a certain few elders that really got off by "talking down" to the "flock".
many elders were pretty nice guys but a few could turn----just like that!
what was your experience with "those taking the lead", the "loving shepherds"???
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ApagaLaLuz
LOL at Min, not really, just outspoken I suppose. The day I got the guts to take on the 4 Elders that sat across from me in that room, was the day I felt like I finally gained confidence. I was 19 years old by the way. And they asked me if I wanted one of the older women in the congregation to have a bible study with me. I laughed at them because I had been pioneering for several years and held the most bible studies of anyone in the congregation *blech*
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Who's been around the most?
by blobby in.
how far travelled are you?.
how many different countries have you visited in your life time.......................can't name the same country twice ....even if it has changed names.. countries on other planets don't count !.
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ApagaLaLuz
Wow! you guys win. Suppose you have an unfair advantage if you've been in the military.
I have been to:
Mexico
England
Germany
France
Portugal
Italy
Canada/ I suppose since Newfoundland is it's territory
and my favorite place on earth SPAIN!!
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Were You Treated With Respect When Counseled By The Elders?
by minimus ini knew a certain few elders that really got off by "talking down" to the "flock".
many elders were pretty nice guys but a few could turn----just like that!
what was your experience with "those taking the lead", the "loving shepherds"???
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ApagaLaLuz
CHEVYSNTATS: Wow, you're one gutsy gal. Just curious. Could you give an example of a question that really irked them, or one that they had real trouble with?
Oh gosh it was a few years ago. Just going from memory though:
I was bringing my King James Bible to meetings for a while and kept pretty extensive notes regarding inconsistancies between the KJ and NWT bibles. That was one thing I asked them to address.
I also asked them to show me how to come up with the year 1914 using only the bible and no study aids. I also addressed issues such as facial hair. And why dating and marrying a "worldly" person was so stricly inforced if it was only a priciple and not a law that was set forth in the bible.
I also asked them why they choose to inforce this principle when other principles such as not braiding your hair or wearing pearls were also specifically mentioned. I asked them why in the same chapter abstaining from blood, is mentioned and also only eating what the Jews call Kosher foods are mentioned together yet they ignore that.
I also asked for an explination of Matt 24:34 regarding the signs of the times and the change of the definition of "generation". The list goes on and on.
The one that really seemed to piss them off was when I asked them about Charles Russell. I explained that if he was such an important figure in founding the Jehovah's Witnesses and organizing "God's Only Chosen People" in our day and age, to show me in the bible a prophecy of him. They could NEVER give me a valid response as to HOW he was divinely inspired to create their organization.
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Were You Treated With Respect When Counseled By The Elders?
by minimus ini knew a certain few elders that really got off by "talking down" to the "flock".
many elders were pretty nice guys but a few could turn----just like that!
what was your experience with "those taking the lead", the "loving shepherds"???
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ApagaLaLuz
By the way, in my meeting they had all these Watchtower bound volumes that they kept trying to read from. I told them that I had been intensely studying the bible and didnt respect The Watchtower as divinely inspired at the moment. I asked them to answer my questions ONLY using the bible. Good lord they were pissed.
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Were You Treated With Respect When Counseled By The Elders?
by minimus ini knew a certain few elders that really got off by "talking down" to the "flock".
many elders were pretty nice guys but a few could turn----just like that!
what was your experience with "those taking the lead", the "loving shepherds"???
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ApagaLaLuz
My meetings were for all things *gasp* apostacey
Yes initially. I had grown up with them and had a good relationship with most of them. In the begining anyway. One Elder in particular grew very frustrated with me because he couldnt answer any of the questions that I brought up. Finally he says to me "you walk in here like you know everything and have the whole world just figured out. Well you're just a little girl sweetheart."
He was right, I was little girl, but I was the most confused I'd ever been. They asked to meet again and I told them that I refused because of what he had said. I met with them again and they replaced him with an Elder whom I had such great respect for. I still do to this day actually. He was so kind to me. He was the only one who actually got me to lower my guard a bit.
Then the PO hit on me in the parking lot afterwards.
Now my sister on the other hand. The Elders who met with her were all dick-head assholes.
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Dahmer's Parents on Larry King
by rem indid anyone see the larry king interview with jeffery dahmer's parents yesterday?
his father is a devout creationist and even converted jefferey to a creationist while he was in prison.
the interesting thing i thought, though, was the father's theory for why jeffery was able to commit those murders: because jeffery believed in evolution.
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ApagaLaLuz
Yeah, right. Jeffrey Dahmer is one sick little unit, and if his parents want to live in that alternate universe of theirs, that's fine, but I hope the courts keep their heads and keep the little monster incarcerated for life.
No worries there, some inmate did us all a favor and killed him a few years ago.
I only got to watch part of it. But as parents it's a natural instinct to want to protect your kids no matter what. The thing that scares me is when killers appear so normal. *shiver*
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Dahmer's Parents on Larry King
by rem indid anyone see the larry king interview with jeffery dahmer's parents yesterday?
his father is a devout creationist and even converted jefferey to a creationist while he was in prison.
the interesting thing i thought, though, was the father's theory for why jeffery was able to commit those murders: because jeffery believed in evolution.
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ApagaLaLuz
LOL! So the general consences is "dont worry" :)