friends,.
at the end of the 80's the wts published "mankind's search for god", about the global mainstream religion's.. what's your opinion about this publication?.
i think it was written for use on the weekly bookstudy, there were questions for all paragraphs.. after the publication it was never used at the bookstudy, and it was only rarely used in the congregation.. .
Friends,
At the end of the 80's the WTS published "Mankind's Search for God", about the global mainstream religion's.
What's your opinion about this publication?
I think it was written for use on the weekly bookstudy, there were questions for all paragraphs.
After the publication it was never used at the bookstudy, and it was only rarely used in the congregation.
In our kingdom hall we made fun about the person most right on the picture. He has 2 pair of feet. A singer with 4 feet.
((:
Gorbatchov
yes, what was the biggest lie that you can think of, that persuaded you to realize that they were not who they said they were ?.
for myself it would have to be the year they picked as the destruction of ancient jerusalem 607 bc.. i have an assumption this was done purposely to coincide correctly with making 1914 an a important pivotal date.
in human history, which by all factual evidence it was not.. unassuming and deceiving manipulation for self marketing purposes.
Chronology 1799,1874, 1879, 1914, 1919,1925, 1935,1975 , "This generation" (1995), "This generation" (2009), blood doctrine (was not was), the WTS (Rutterfraud & Knorr Knorr) letter to the Reichsfuhrer, the story of Erich Frost, Paul Balzereits excommunication and onjust blaming, the property management and wealth $$$ of the society(trust the brothers!), the education policy (high school of Awake!), 1957 ehh 1975, the extreme and hidden power of the WTS lawyers (Bromley et all) and the claim we (JW's) are better than other people and at last the claims about other religions. And of course: that CT Rusell was the first president. They forgot WH Conley!
Fun!
Gorbatchov
friends,.
today i was thinking about the move of the jw hq from brooklyn and the recent plans to sell the property in rome, italy and madrid, spain.. is it possible that the valuable rome & madrid property's are going to be sold to finance the new headquarters in the us?.
reason could be that the brooklyn buildings are not sold yet, because of the curent market.
Friends,
Today I was thinking about the move of the JW HQ from Brooklyn and the recent plans to sell the property in Rome, Italy and Madrid, Spain.
Is it possible that the valuable Rome & Madrid property's are going to be sold to finance the new headquarters in the US?
Reason could be that the Brooklyn buildings are not sold yet, because of the curent market. The selling of Rome & Madrid property could fill the financial gap in the US.
International Property Management ...
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Gorbatchov
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Thanks for sharing. What a self-PR of the JW belief. )):
Gorbatchov
i know there has been countless threads on this, some say the paedophile scandal, others say the blood ban, some say the conduct of their elders, others say the petty rules etc.
but there is usually one thing that seals every one's fate, tips you over the edge,finishes you off.i was fading, very closely to full inactivity, off the book study list, and very sporadic meeting attendance, which took me to the very last time i set foot in my kingdumb hall, this is what happened;.
it was the memorial of 1994, i hadn't set foot in the place for months, but thought a show at the memorial would keep the wife happy and the elders at bay for a bit longer, i drove to the hall being careful not to get there too early(the wife was already there and had saved me a seat) i walked up to my seat about mid way in the hall so a lot could see me, it was packed probably about 200 there, as i sat down ( about 3/4 mins to go) a sister in front of me turned around and said"we haven't seen you in a long time!
My grandmother died earlier this year. We (my father and I) went two days later to my grandmothers house for the things that had to be done. Take everything away, say thanks to the people who cared for here.
Then an elder came in the room. He asked: did you report your fieldservice this month? It is already the 6 day of the month and i did not see your report.
Crazy! He did not say sorry for the loss of my grandmother, he asked for my fieldservice report.
Gorbatchov
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latest news is that tj is up and around but is living in a house on the wallkill properties.. he is being tended to by a group of the societies doctors and nurses to make sure that he is continuing to improve.. shucks, guess he may be around giving orders for some time yet.. japster.
Just like the Soviet Leaders in the good old times (Andropov, Tsjenenko).
Gorbatchov
so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.
mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.
here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.
See the Watchtower Lawyer (and Convention speaker) Brumley at a US Senate hearing with other religious delegates.
If I do the same (if I even think or dream about it), I will be shunned directly by the local elders!
so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.
mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.
here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.
If you call the society, you will get the answer "The Watchtower Society" has no ties with the OSCE and UN". And formaly, this is true.
Because, it is not the Watchtower Society, that is present at the OSCE meeting. It's the European association of JW, the Russia bla bla of JW etc.
The entity is a sub organisation of the Watchtower Society. So, formaly they are true if they say "The Watchtower Societ" was not present.
Hypocrisie optima forma.
Gorbatchov
as a kid, i used to read all the watchtowers of the 40s and 50s to see how the present day information developed from its original "thought".
i was exposed to many eye opening statements but i swept them under the carpet (although it stayed in the recesses of my brain) until the time was right.. so for me, it was a gradual thing.. how were you affected by your first encounters with "apostate" material?
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I read information about JW in the public library. Some witnesses worked there so I (15 years old) had to take a constant look over my shoulders. I was scared the elder watched we me reading the public JW file overthere. Ten years later I got internet on my room and took a look at H20 Hourglass everyday. I was scared about reading the information about 1799, 1874 and the original teachings about 1914. It was the beginning of my sarcasm about the JW writersstaf.
Gorbatchov
"History is a capricious character.
It depends on who writes it."
