part 3 of maybe not so relevant information, but nice to know and opening my eyes during the past years, were this pictures of an official watchtower representative attending a meeting between the austrian government and the country's main religions.
i don't know who the representative is, no names, no face, i cut and past it from some website.
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oldhippy hi I wrote in a related toppic that there is nothing wrong with a meeting like this. I think it is just a good thing.
My main point is that the internal perception of jw.org is that it's wrong, and if a JW at a local level does the same he will be ousted.
That's the hypocritical point of the organization I hate so much.
part 3 of maybe not so relevant information, but nice to know and opening my eyes during the past years, were this pictures of an official watchtower representative attending a meeting between the austrian government and the country's main religions.
i don't know who the representative is, no names, no face, i cut and past it from some website.
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Part 3 of maybe not so relevant information, but nice to know and opening my eyes during the past years, were this pictures of an official Watchtower representative attending a meeting between the Austrian government and the country's main religions. I don't know who the representative is, no names, no face, I cut and past it from some website.
maybe not relevant at all, another picture from my deep storage archive, with on it an official austria watchtower delegation meeting with government and religion leaders of that country.. .
Maybe not relevant at all, another picture from my deep storage archive, with on it an official Austria Watchtower delegation meeting with government and religion leaders of that country.
maybe not relevant today, just sharing one of my archive storage, this picture of jw.org lawyer philip brumley, in a joint project with scientology and other religions in 2006.. the picture was published on a scientology website, mentioning the joint project with jw.org .
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When I first got these information I was happy to see the WTS was involved with governments and was maybe transforming to a mainstream religion. So, first not bad at all.
Then they tried to hide the UN connection and got more distance again from mainstream in the perception to their members (they are at this moment still present at UN conferences).
So, the untruth in the perception to their own members did open my eyes for good.
Gorby
some cong-member asked my wife this question (in the street, stopping her on her bicycle) in a rather police-like fashion.
i wasn't there so i don't know her immediate reaction and response, but she got very upset afterwards and one day later this still occupies her mind.
i believe it's an emotional mix of anger, sadness, shame and guilt.. she doesn't like this intrusion in her privacy from some jws and on the next occasion she will try to make this person respect her boundaries (or just ignore her).
in this recognizable situation I gave an elder the reply "I understand you feel obligate to ask me this question and I respect you. I hope you respect me, having no intention to give a reaction". He tried again ofcourse and I told him again "I respect you, I hope you respect me" and again. He gave the last words "no, i don't respect you" and that was it, he showed his cards.
maybe not relevant today, here a picture of jw.org staff negotiating with cuban governmental officials.
in the 90's, from my deep storage archive.
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The source is simple: I cut and paste the picture during my late '90 internet connection.
There was some witness who did a Bethel tour at Patterson and published his pictures of the
tour on the net. One of the pictures was of the legal office and this picture was hanging on a wall.
I just cut and paste it, knowing it could be for later use. So the source is the legal staff at Patterson.
This picture openend my eyes about the Society.
Later the United Nation connections and other political ties confirmed my opinion.
maybe not relevant today, just sharing one of my archive storage, this picture of jw.org lawyer philip brumley, in a joint project with scientology and other religions in 2006.. the picture was published on a scientology website, mentioning the joint project with jw.org .
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It surprised me that the information is still online. Here you can read the article:
http://www.freedommag.org/english/vol32i1/page14.htm
It really opened my eyes for sure in 2000.
Gorby
maybe not relevant today, here a picture of jw.org staff negotiating with cuban governmental officials.
in the 90's, from my deep storage archive.
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Maybe not relevant today, here a picture of jw.org staff negotiating with Cuban governmental officials
in the 90's, from my deep storage archive.
maybe not relevant today, just sharing one of my archive storage, this picture of jw.org lawyer philip brumley, in a joint project with scientology and other religions in 2006.. the picture was published on a scientology website, mentioning the joint project with jw.org .
.
looking on google maps, i found the presence of ibm, just oppositie to the jw headquarters in warwick.. so, jw.org are not the only one surrounding the lakes in the forest in warwick.. jw, ibm, what's more on the spot there?
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not a bad place to build your new hq.. gorby.
Looking on Google maps, I found the presence of IBM, just oppositie to the JW headquarters in Warwick.
So, jw.org are not the only one surrounding the lakes in the forest in Warwick.
JW, IBM, what's more on the spot there?
Not a bad place to build your new HQ.
Gorby
