I have signs of changed thinking of family members: they dislike the new generation doctrine. They also told me they stay JW for the family.
"Some people collect stamps, and we have another hobby: being JW's" a family member told me.
after reading on the way out's thread about his mom explaining the generation overlap to him it kicked this idea into my head to make this thread .
i thought it would be helpful to see if anybody here has had jw relatives or friends try to explain this " generation overlap " theory to you as a faded or inactive witness and what happened in the conversations.
so please feel free to post your experiences.
I have signs of changed thinking of family members: they dislike the new generation doctrine. They also told me they stay JW for the family.
"Some people collect stamps, and we have another hobby: being JW's" a family member told me.
alice.......here's a good elton john song about a girl named alice.
mary and yknot probably remember this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djiuatp_swy.
Elton John is my favorite artist! The live concerts are great!
i have tons of elders letters which were part of a website about 7 years ago and if my memory proves correct it was taken down due to bullying by the society.. i was wondering if these letters were still out there somewhere, because if not i'll upload them.
they are all in catergories.
might be useful.
Thanks for the upload!
i'm trying to compare some statistics and figures on this to share later in the thread to see if more long-time witnesses are exiting- or are newer witnesses exiting after a shorter period of time.
and - are more people exiting in the last 10 to 15 years than before.
so your answers would be helpful in looking into this .
My both grandmothers became a witness in 1944 and 1946. Born in the organisation (1970). Inactive since 2007, no visit to kingdom hall since 2009, visit memorial 2010. Starting visiting KH in may 2010. I don't want to lose family but stay an anti organisational JW.
Pray for me I have to lissen to the B... S.... again.
i'm trying to compare some statistics and figures on this to share later in the thread to see if more long-time witnesses are exiting- or are newer witnesses exiting after a shorter period of time.
and - are more people exiting in the last 10 to 15 years than before.
so your answers would be helpful in looking into this .
Stopped in 2008, age 37.
Returning in may, 2010 for family reasons. Only attending, no preaching.
I'll remain a critical anti-organisational JW.
just got back from memorial.
only went so that i could say to my parents that i had gone and to remind myself why i left.. oh my word!!!
it was sooooo painful.. got there a bit late - it was a couple of minutes into the talk.
Mary thanks for sharing your visit to the KH. I attended the memorial also. I missed totally the historical perspective of the memorial. No going-back to the period of the first christians. Only the big picture about how Jehovah and Jesus save us if we believe in watchtower theology. It was the first time in a year I attended the KH, I didn't have the new song book. It was strange! It seems they were singing these songs for the first time. The invitation was funny. An old brother read the invitation word by word, very fast. He did not understand it, only read it.
It was a show, a symbol of once in a year being nice to new people in the KH. But I did not se Christian love. It was technocrat love.
my two favourites are.-.
a) lynyrd skynyrd "one more from the road".
b) genesis "seconds out".
Elton John, live in Australia
just curious to know how big is the legal department in brooklyn??
is it headed by a gb member...how much influence they have over the teachings of the society?.
Listed as Watchtower attorneys practicing in New York: Attorneys at 100 Watchtower Drive in Patterson, NY 12563: Philip Brumley (home address 131 Brimstone Road, Patterson NY 12563 although also given for him in another document was 2891 Route 22, Patterson, NY 12563-2236); Mario F. Moreno (home address 720 Route 292 in Holmes NY 12531), Carolyn Wah, Adam Lett, Paul D. Polidoro, Donald T. Ridley, Robert C. James, Richard King, John Miller III, Richard Moake, Erna Neufeld, Gregory D. Olds (home address 79 Willow Street, Brooklyn NY 11201 involved with Religious Order of JWs), William R. Bell, Christine Benham, Max Custer, Michelle Dickinson, Lisa Douglas, furthermore: Michelle Dickinson at 27 Hudson Watchtower Drive, Ossining NY 10562; further: Christine Benham at 275 Tanner Marsh Road, Guilford Connecticut 06437; further, James M. McCabe can be mailed at 4817 Santa Monica Avenue, Suite B, San Diego, California 92017
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Thanks for this comments. It keeps me thinking.
very funny video from 2 jw girls on the dutch xfactor.
it will start at about 2.33.. one of the jury (left) says 'they have such smug faces, they look like jehovah's witnesses'.
when they tell him they are jw's, he's laughing his head off.... http://www.rtl.nl/components/shows/x...ctor_s3_a3.xml .
The Dutch (Netherlands) and the Danish (Denmark) are the most liberal JW's. You can make everything there.
The young JW do everything thats forbidden by the society etcetera