Gorbatchov

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  The 1914 doctrine: How long it will last?

  by opusdei1972 in

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  one hundred years have passed and the society still supports this lie, which of course, is the basis of their other lies, like that of the unfaithful and not discreet slave appointed in 1919. however, i wonder, what will happen after 50 years, when the overlapped generation will pass?.

  and if you want, what will happen with this religion in 2100?, could it survive with the same lie??

  ?.

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  Gorbatchov

  Who cares??
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  WT “Study” for 11th Sept 2016 – “Why Must We ‘Keep on the Watch’”?

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was really puzzled when i opened this edition of the wt magazine at the above “study”.

  what on earth has this picture at the top of page 13 got to do with christian watchfulness?

  i wasn’t making a connection at all.

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  Whaha great isn't it.
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  See the new Dutch assembly hall

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...it looks like a generic, easy to sell barn hall.. https://youtu.be/eqwrfhbbqwy.

  nothing like the old hall it's built next to.. the small room in the video is the indoctrination education center.. the building is completed one year ahead of schedule.

  my guess: it's either much simpler than they originally planned, and/or they had more volunteers because nothing else is being built.. video is dutch, but nothing interesting is said anyway..

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  All conventions will be held there. This year the last conventions in Holland took place in external locations.

  It's a keep the money in the corporation strategy.

  Many big corporations have this strategy, preventing the cash flow going to external stakeholders like convention property owners.

  The money stays inside now.

  G.
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  Any word on the annual meeting?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have all the leaks at ny bethel been discovered, or are there still some who are revealing the inner secrets beforehand?

  i haven't seen anything here about the annual meeting just a month away now.

  anyone have any real info on it?.

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  Gorbatchov

  It will be the best AM ever.

  It is not to be missed.

  A new song will be released.

  The program shall be transfered by live streaming.

  Br. Splane will give some doctrine explenation again.

  So, nothing new under the sun.
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  Mouthy has Passed Away

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

  i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

  - may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

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  Gorbatchov

  I'm sorry to hear. Mouthy thank you so much. Love.

  Gorby
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  Do you recognize?

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gorby has had a personal paradigm shift lately.. from one point to an other i "feel" and "think" different about the jw subject.. - no more interest in doctrine.

  - no more interest in things that happen 100 years ago into an religion.. - no more taking statements too serious.

  it doesn't matter me at all what a generation doctrine change is all about, it doesn't matter me at all that brother elder said "blablabla boe!".

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  Gorbatchov

  Thanks for the comments,

  What I failed to mention, is that this paradigm shift works on two sides this time.

  Reading the toppics here, i feel that I don't care about old and new scandals and untruths anymore.

  Attending the Kingdom Hall, i feel that it's all Spanish to me.

  Having lost the attachment to the toppics, I feel i'm having more focus on people. JW and non JW. Human interest.

  And that's why I wrote that i'm surrounded by good people now.

  Hope you get what I mean due to the language gap between Dutch and English.

  Gorby
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  Do you recognize?

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gorby has had a personal paradigm shift lately.. from one point to an other i "feel" and "think" different about the jw subject.. - no more interest in doctrine.

  - no more interest in things that happen 100 years ago into an religion.. - no more taking statements too serious.

  it doesn't matter me at all what a generation doctrine change is all about, it doesn't matter me at all that brother elder said "blablabla boe!".

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  Gorbatchov

  Gorby has had a personal paradigm shift lately.

  From one point to an other I "feel" and "think" different about the JW subject.

  - No more interest in doctrine

  - No more interest in things that happen 100 years ago into an religion.

  - No more taking statements too serious

  It doesn't matter me at all what a generation doctrine change is all about, it doesn't matter me at all that brother elder said "blablabla boe!". It doen't matter me that the organization is in change.

  What the heck. And since it happend, I have nice people surrounding me.

  Do you remember this feeling? Thinking?

  Let me know.

  Gorby
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  How many JWs actually died in Nazi camps

  by dogon in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the jws have tried to pad the number of jws in camps.

  how many actually went and how many died?

  can you site the source also?

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  Dr. Detlef Garbe wrote a standard work about this subject.

  • Detlef Garbe: Zwischen Widerstand und Martyrium. Die Zeugen Jehovas im „Dritten Reich“. In: Studien zur Zeitgeschichte. 4. Auflage. Band 42. Oldenbourg, München 1999, ISBN 3-486-56404-8 (Dissertation an der Universität Hamburg 1989).
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  Convention

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gorby is as you know a long time fader.. visited the convention this weekend.. and concluded that samuel herds talk about hope was not so bad at all, it was well balanced.

  made some good points.. knowing both sides of the medallion, have to admit he was humble with a focus on hope.. the saturday drama impressed me.

  of course, there is a lot to say about the organization, this professional produced movie in a "true story" scenario, gave me the insight that hope is important for suffering people.

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  Main point for me is that I didn't see forward to this convention, and have taken some points that made me think. Summary for me personaly is that we are human, serious things can and will happen, and hope is essential then for going through it. The details about this hope is something you can fill in for your self.

  Hope for things you will not see or hope for things that will happen diferently then you expect.

  Last thing, those delegates were good people. From all over the globe. That's a kind of special.

  G.
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  Convention

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gorby is as you know a long time fader.. visited the convention this weekend.. and concluded that samuel herds talk about hope was not so bad at all, it was well balanced.

  made some good points.. knowing both sides of the medallion, have to admit he was humble with a focus on hope.. the saturday drama impressed me.

  of course, there is a lot to say about the organization, this professional produced movie in a "true story" scenario, gave me the insight that hope is important for suffering people.

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  Gorbatchov

  @perry, maybe a true conclusion. What to do without hope?

  Everyone needs hope. When sickness, death and problems arise, hope can make the difference.

  That's not a JW trademark aspect, all religions say.

  Maybe it sounds mad, but Samuel Herd gave me a look at the hope subject again.

  That's not bad isn't it?

  G.