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  Name Things JWs Believe That Are Not Actually Biblically Provable

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  here's one example: being a congregation publisher.

  nowhere in the bible does it say you should be a "publisher" and turn in your time if you preach.

  they try to twist the scriptures by saying that numbers are constantly being recorded in the bible so then conforming to the rules of being a publisher is from the scriptures.. yeah, right..

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  Someday a hyperbolic metaphor will walk up to a Fundamentalist and kiss them on the forehead

  Dear Lord save us from the Fundi's.

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  Name Things JWs Believe That Are Not Actually Biblically Provable

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's one example: being a congregation publisher.

  nowhere in the bible does it say you should be a "publisher" and turn in your time if you preach.

  they try to twist the scriptures by saying that numbers are constantly being recorded in the bible so then conforming to the rules of being a publisher is from the scriptures.. yeah, right..

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  isaacaustin,

  But your views are not what we have been discussing, its the Witness view of why 2 persons can hold titles by the same name.

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  Name Things JWs Believe That Are Not Actually Biblically Provable

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's one example: being a congregation publisher.

  nowhere in the bible does it say you should be a "publisher" and turn in your time if you preach.

  they try to twist the scriptures by saying that numbers are constantly being recorded in the bible so then conforming to the rules of being a publisher is from the scriptures.. yeah, right..

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  isaacaustin,

  We have been discussing the Witnesses theology and how they view titles being used by both Jehovah and Jesus. Are you familiar with Bishop Arius and his views or 1st century Jewish Messianic theology.

  My feeling is that whether a person believes in a particular theology or not they should be conversant in other schools of theology. If you were to teach a class on Christian history you should be able to take the class through Sabellianism, the splits between East and West over the Filioque etc. even though those may not be your personal beliefs.

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  Name Things JWs Believe That Are Not Actually Biblically Provable

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's one example: being a congregation publisher.

  nowhere in the bible does it say you should be a "publisher" and turn in your time if you preach.

  they try to twist the scriptures by saying that numbers are constantly being recorded in the bible so then conforming to the rules of being a publisher is from the scriptures.. yeah, right..

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  isaacaustin,

  You've gone in a different direction but certainly you understand the various schools of theology and levels of divinity. This particular view is simply a variation of Bishop Arius's coupled with 1st century Jewish Messianic views that the Society holds.

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  Name Things JWs Believe That Are Not Actually Biblically Provable

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's one example: being a congregation publisher.

  nowhere in the bible does it say you should be a "publisher" and turn in your time if you preach.

  they try to twist the scriptures by saying that numbers are constantly being recorded in the bible so then conforming to the rules of being a publisher is from the scriptures.. yeah, right..

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  Isaacaustin,

  Sure it is, that is simply a method of entitlement you find in any Monarchy. A Crown Prince being readied to become King begins to attain titles of authority and then the receives full powers of rulership.

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  Name Things JWs Believe That Are Not Actually Biblically Provable

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's one example: being a congregation publisher.

  nowhere in the bible does it say you should be a "publisher" and turn in your time if you preach.

  they try to twist the scriptures by saying that numbers are constantly being recorded in the bible so then conforming to the rules of being a publisher is from the scriptures.. yeah, right..

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  isaacaustin,

  In JW theology titles of leadership can be applied to both Jehovah and Jesus. Whether you agree with this or not is not the point, their system allows for it. Jesus is Lord, God, Father etc. and collects and retains those titles by their concept of subordinationism. You should have learned that as a JW.

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  Name Things JWs Believe That Are Not Actually Biblically Provable

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's one example: being a congregation publisher.

  nowhere in the bible does it say you should be a "publisher" and turn in your time if you preach.

  they try to twist the scriptures by saying that numbers are constantly being recorded in the bible so then conforming to the rules of being a publisher is from the scriptures.. yeah, right..

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  Chalam,

  I would describe you as Fundamentalist, especially since you agree with John Calvin and his TULIP criteria and by the texts you have isolated.

  The main problem with Fundamentalism is their conduct, something is seriously wrong with the views they hold and how it translates itself in their lives. John Calvin murdered Servetus. Violence and war are at their historical core. Jesus said by their fruits you would know his followers.

  In professional dealings with people who claim to be 'born again' and Fundamentalists they have proven to be the most corrupt and dishonest group I have ever dealt with. Why are they like that, I don't know, its probably for a sociologist to analyze.

  In my own Faith I am deconstructing and rebuilding many things. I believe the historical Jesus of the Gospels and his Resurrection and that he cares for humanity, not just some 'Elect' as Calvin imagined, I beleive he will restore all things as promised.

  I believe we are here to care for each other and this earth, to be humanitarians and environmentalists.

  Take care

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  Name Things JWs Believe That Are Not Actually Biblically Provable

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's one example: being a congregation publisher.

  nowhere in the bible does it say you should be a "publisher" and turn in your time if you preach.

  they try to twist the scriptures by saying that numbers are constantly being recorded in the bible so then conforming to the rules of being a publisher is from the scriptures.. yeah, right..

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  Dave,

  It really is about converting people to a specific set of doctrinal interpretations. It is not just belief in Jesus as the Savior of humanity but the Jesus of the Trinity and the belief in Hell and forms of predestination. Calvinism 101.

  Getting people out of one tough situation only to get them into a worse one is being no friend.

  Take care

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  Name Things JWs Believe That Are Not Actually Biblically Provable

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's one example: being a congregation publisher.

  nowhere in the bible does it say you should be a "publisher" and turn in your time if you preach.

  they try to twist the scriptures by saying that numbers are constantly being recorded in the bible so then conforming to the rules of being a publisher is from the scriptures.. yeah, right..

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  Chalam,

  The whole core of Fundamentalism is questionable starting with its Creeds. Uber Literalism leads to faulty practices. Look at the history of Fundamentalism and how these interpreters of scripture have behaved. It has been a bane on Christianity. Millions on millions of Fundamentalists have brought violence on each other and those who believed differently. It is a shame and embarrassment to Jesus whom they claim to follow.

  The God of John Calvin's imagination was a monster.

  Step back and take an objective view of what you have gotten yourself involved with. The Fundamentalists don't have room to cast bricks in glass houses. Their history makes Witnesses look mild in comparison.

  Take care

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  Name Things JWs Believe That Are Not Actually Biblically Provable

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's one example: being a congregation publisher.

  nowhere in the bible does it say you should be a "publisher" and turn in your time if you preach.

  they try to twist the scriptures by saying that numbers are constantly being recorded in the bible so then conforming to the rules of being a publisher is from the scriptures.. yeah, right..

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  Chalam,

  Thought you probably went Fundamentalist. And yet you see that God must be the decider, so why all the angst. If a person chose to stay with a particular belief system, and different from your interpretation, a kind Supreme Being will straighten it all out in paradise.

  Take care, of yourself your family and this earth- W. Berry

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