Hi You Know,
Do you believe that Hosea chapter 4 is being fulfilled?
IW
the issue is as old as eden itself, that being: does god have the right to tell us what to do?
that core question, more than anything else, defines what jehovahs witnesses are about, in that we are outspoken advocates and supporters of jehovahs right as sovereign to require obedience from his creatures.
the flip side of that is, of course, rebellion against god, which is expressed in numerous ways and on all levels of society.
Hi You Know,
Do you believe that Hosea chapter 4 is being fulfilled?
IW
while it is not impossible to have a happy marriage in the jw religion for many it is hard, for some it is very hard to maintain happiness in their marriage.
the watchtower raises the bar so very high in every aspect of life, marriage included.
the watchtower literature encourages a jw married couple to be practically perfect, or at least that is the goal set before them.
Hi HS,
Thank you for the kind words.
Jeff,
I'm glad you and your wife skipped over the trying to be perfect thing!
Lisa,
LOL, I remember that three-fold chord analogy, I think many of us just got all "tangled up" in it, because just as you said the Tower was the third chord, a chord that knew very little about married life in the real world!
IW
while it is not impossible to have a happy marriage in the jw religion for many it is hard, for some it is very hard to maintain happiness in their marriage.
the watchtower raises the bar so very high in every aspect of life, marriage included.
the watchtower literature encourages a jw married couple to be practically perfect, or at least that is the goal set before them.
Hi Jaded,
Thanks for the reply. In retrospect I feel as if my husband and I were like marionette puppets. The Watchtower dictated every aspect of our married life, there was no area that they did not discuss and decide for us what was right or wrong. They pulled the strings and we obeyed.
Now, I see his face and it is not the face of a Jehovah's Witness who is my husband; it is the face of a kind man who has stuck with his family through trials and tribulations and through the leaving of a way of life that was so central to our very being.
As you said we must come to know not only each other but "ourselves as well."
IW
while it is not impossible to have a happy marriage in the jw religion for many it is hard, for some it is very hard to maintain happiness in their marriage.
the watchtower raises the bar so very high in every aspect of life, marriage included.
the watchtower literature encourages a jw married couple to be practically perfect, or at least that is the goal set before them.
While it is not impossible to have a happy marriage in the JW religion for many it is hard, for some it is very hard to maintain happiness in their marriage
The Watchtower raises the bar so very high in every aspect of life, marriage included. The Watchtower literature encourages a JW married couple to be practically perfect, or at least that is the goal set before them. The reality for most is that they will never be able to reach what is advertised to them as the expected norm, the standard set forth in the Watchtower literature. Many couples struggle with this dichotomy.
The Watchtower says that hubbie or darling wife should be like this or that or be doing this or that. When one or both fail to meet the standard then disappointment sets in. They don't see that their religion is trying to force every married couple to fit into the same mold, a standard mold for the wife and one for the husband.
My husband and I have just recently come to terms with this. We have seen that what the Watchtower taught us to expect from ourselves and from one another was not real, it was a fantasy. We are trying for the first time in our lives to really see each other and accept each other as just people, people free from the crushing mold of the Watchtower Society and also people who have worth just for who we are.
Thirty years we have been married, yet we really know little about each other outside of the Watchtower mold we have been living in.
IW
i repeat, you have not lived as a jw.
you have not raised your child as one, you have not had to sign a virtual death warrant for your child by refusing blood!!
you have not had to die as many of us have had to die.. you have not walked as we have walked!!!.
Julie,
On January 1 of this year you posted this on the "Re: Apology to Julie" thread:
"Julie, who is capable enough to consider ideas and think independently to the point she managed to never join the cult in the first place, cause she knows nonsense from a mile away (and close up)"
Before you posted this I really did not care one way or the other about your JW status or lack thereof. Though you did quickly apologize for the statement and attempt to restate it in a more palatable form, the gist of it keeps coming up in your posts.
You were smart enough not to join, so I guess that means those that chose to join were dumb! This could very well be, but it hurts much less when said by someone who did swallow the Watchtower line.
Trying to "shut you up" was not my intention, making a forceful point was my only aim.
As for starting a new thread, I was amused by your title: "Hi there Island Woman", so thought it would be fun to answer back similarly.
For some reason Amazing keeps popping up in your mind, you "see" him everywhere!
Julie, who will take Seeker's fine advice and leave this as my only offeringI agree Julie, that is good advice. I think you and I have better things to do than continue with this thread.
IW
i repeat, you have not lived as a jw.
you have not raised your child as one, you have not had to sign a virtual death warrant for your child by refusing blood!!
you have not had to die as many of us have had to die.. you have not walked as we have walked!!!.
Gravedancer,
You have the right to think what you will.
I had no intention of making Julie "shut up". I know that Julie will say what she wants to say. I do the same. That is all that is going on here.
Opinions and Counter opinions.
IW
i repeat, you have not lived as a jw.
you have not raised your child as one, you have not had to sign a virtual death warrant for your child by refusing blood!!
you have not had to die as many of us have had to die.. you have not walked as we have walked!!!.
Gravedancer,
I am not excluding anyone.
But tell me, does hitting the ball while Dad pitches in the back yard equate with playing in the Major league?
There is a giving, an all or nothing, that for many of us comes with baptism. We said "yes", to giving our lives and our children's lives to the cause. No one but us can really know what that means, what it feels like, and how it hurts after we wake up!!
IW
i repeat, you have not lived as a jw.
you have not raised your child as one, you have not had to sign a virtual death warrant for your child by refusing blood!!
you have not had to die as many of us have had to die.. you have not walked as we have walked!!!.
Gravedancer,
"Ranking" has nothing to do with what is being discussed in this thread.
My sister gave up a son to the blood issue, others bowed down to the Watchtower in other ways both small and large. Please, do not make this an issue that just involves yourself! We all have given more than we should have to an organization that is led by only men!
IW
posted by iggy on h2o.
http://www.aimoo.com/forum/postview.cfm?id=311102&categoryid=2967&threadid=123718.
i received an email recently from moira russell, the wife of martin russell (dr feelgood) to let me know that martin had died from heart problems on jan 9. .
Goodnight Dr. Feelgood, you helped us to remember that life was not what we thought it was. You did help us "feel good". Thank You!!
IW
i repeat, you have not lived as a jw.
you have not raised your child as one, you have not had to sign a virtual death warrant for your child by refusing blood!!
you have not had to die as many of us have had to die.. you have not walked as we have walked!!!.
Hello there UncleBruce!!!
Long time no see!! We need you, please don't stay away so long!!!
IW