i have seen debates and shizzle about god or not god etc etc.. i was even confronted by an aggressive and trheatening muslim in the street, who was angry that i wanted proof that god existed.
he ranted on a load of old b0110cks about 'hell' and stuff.
finally he yelled at me: 'do you want god to write your name in the sky?
I post on godandscience.org, its got some great discussions and debates at times.
I find it a refreshing site where christians can discuss and debate with other christians ( or skeptics) and you have a wide range of Christian beleifs ranging from Clavinist to RCC to Messianic Jews to atheists.
i have seen debates and shizzle about god or not god etc etc.. i was even confronted by an aggressive and trheatening muslim in the street, who was angry that i wanted proof that god existed.
he ranted on a load of old b0110cks about 'hell' and stuff.
finally he yelled at me: 'do you want god to write your name in the sky?
well of course mormon is wackey, but cofty you view mormon as not giving eviedance but you have not read and studyed it as much as believing mormon. how do you know that what you have not studied has proof. i will say this they are nice people but they have a bad gospel. but i guess according to athiest my gospel is bad.
There are many ways to understand God's creation and, IMO, evolution is one of them.
All nature shows His glory and if that is true, then it is there in evolution also.
May I suggest a website like biologos.org?
i have seen debates and shizzle about god or not god etc etc.. i was even confronted by an aggressive and trheatening muslim in the street, who was angry that i wanted proof that god existed.
he ranted on a load of old b0110cks about 'hell' and stuff.
finally he yelled at me: 'do you want god to write your name in the sky?
Very well put Terry.
To use the same love analogy, notice that when you are seeking and looking for love, for that "right one" you never find it?
Yet, when you "give up" looking all of a sudden, there she/he is.
i was curious to hear what other believers understand about dinosaurs.
i know we have a few young earth creationists here.
i wondered what you understand about dinosaurs and when they existed, as well as hear from those that believe dinosaurs lived millions of years ago and how it fits into the bible..
Or this isopod:
Giant squid:
Chimera fish:
Frilled shark:
i was curious to hear what other believers understand about dinosaurs.
i know we have a few young earth creationists here.
i wondered what you understand about dinosaurs and when they existed, as well as hear from those that believe dinosaurs lived millions of years ago and how it fits into the bible..
There are some freaky creatures out there, like this "sea serpent" oar fish:
i have seen debates and shizzle about god or not god etc etc.. i was even confronted by an aggressive and trheatening muslim in the street, who was angry that i wanted proof that god existed.
he ranted on a load of old b0110cks about 'hell' and stuff.
finally he yelled at me: 'do you want god to write your name in the sky?
It really does end up being about belief.
If a person sees this world, this universe and is ok with it all being by chance witn no purpose, then that is what they will believe.
If a person sees this world, this universe and thinks there must be a reason ( or at least a purpose) for it, then that iw what they will believe.
It could be a "comfort level" thing, for some they are comfortable with nothing being the beginning, the middle and the end, for others they need "something more than nothing".
from the source (ann nyland expert lexigrapher, greek scholar).
in the late 1880s and again in the mid 1970s, large amounts of papyri and inscriptions were discovered.
these impacted our knowledge of word meaning in the new testament dramatically.
I'm convinced that God cannot love people UNconditionally and yet maintain any standards of morality or justice.
Sure He can, He's God, He is the only one that can. Now, does He? That is a tough one.
I love my chidlren without conditons, in other words, I love them the same no matter what they do becaus emy love is not based on what they do ro earn that love, I love them because I am their father.
I still punish them when I have to, not because I don't love them but because I DO love them.
Just being merciful isn't moral all by itself.
If you find a scorpion in your child's crib you aren't being merciful by letting it stay all snug under the blanket.
The idea of Salvation is a strange and peculiar end result with a long and twisting history.
It would depend on HOW one views salvation.
I've heard that in the olden times a Father would toss his son in the nearby lake and tell him to "sink or swim" in order to teach him how to man up.
I don't know that such a description is accurate of either Fathers and sons or olden times.
My dad did that to me, I swam BUT I also KNOW that HE would be there to save me if I couldn't.
But, one thing for sure, God seems to be doing it in the Garden of Eden. He watches both Eve and Adam drown along with billions of their children.
Then, he tosses the best swimmer in the universe in the water who promptly refuses to swim, then drowns and everybody cheers!
Nope, a strange story indeed.
I am not sure about your analogy...
God told Adam and Eve NOT to get into the water because if they did, they'd drown. They ignored them and while some will say they didn't drown, it seems we all have been drowing ever since.
So God sent his best swimmer to teach Us how to swim.
Why didn't God just save us from drowinging some ask?
Because you can't save a drowing person that doesn't know they can't breath under water.
i have seen debates and shizzle about god or not god etc etc.. i was even confronted by an aggressive and trheatening muslim in the street, who was angry that i wanted proof that god existed.
he ranted on a load of old b0110cks about 'hell' and stuff.
finally he yelled at me: 'do you want god to write your name in the sky?
I often wonder how William of Ockham would feel seeing his argument used to try and dispell the existence of God.
He'd probably blame Sir William Hamilton for it.
i have seen debates and shizzle about god or not god etc etc.. i was even confronted by an aggressive and trheatening muslim in the street, who was angry that i wanted proof that god existed.
he ranted on a load of old b0110cks about 'hell' and stuff.
finally he yelled at me: 'do you want god to write your name in the sky?
[ ey -thee-ist ] Show IPA noun aperson who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings. The above is from dictionary.com Merriam webster and others state pretty much the same thing in regards to the definition of the WORD. Atheisim isn't a belief systems in the truest sense of the word BUT it is a belief, in this case the belief that there is no evidence and/or proof for God(s). If a person believes that, based on what they know and understand, there is no God(s) then that person is an atheist. We can play little semantics games in regards to beliefs, unbeliefs or what not, but going if a theist is a person that believs there is a God then an atheist is a person that believes there is no god. I think what is at issue is the TYPE of evidence that a person needs to believe ( or disbelieve) in God. There is no way to prove there is ( or isn't a God) so a person goes on all the evidence they have avialable to them, then they decide for themselves of that evidence is enough for belief.
weak people need big things in their life.. but, being weak....they can't do the heavy lifting.. .
scratch that!.....they won't do the heavy lifting.. .
instead, weak people puff up.
I remember how strange it seemed to me that god needed an actual NAME.
And you were correct to find it strange, why would a supreme being need anything?
When Moses asked for a name he was told that God was the God of his forfathers, that God of Aberaham, Isaac and Jacob, but Moses pressed, he NEEDED a Name, so what did God say?
I AM WHO I AM. ( some translation read ..THAT I AM).
Was this God's name? or was this God saying to Moses: Dude, it's enough that I AM, I don't need no freaking human putting a name on me, got it?
I often wonder how that conversation would have went if it was happening in the 21s century !
Moses: WHo are you?
God: I am the God of your father and your ancestors, creator of ther universe, all poweful being !
Moses: Yeah, but what's your name?
God: *hispanic accent* Name? NAME? I don't need no stinkin name !!
