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  Believers and dinosaurs

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was curious to hear what other believers understand about dinosaurs.

  i know we have a few young earth creationists here.

  i wondered what you understand about dinosaurs and when they existed, as well as hear from those that believe dinosaurs lived millions of years ago and how it fits into the bible..

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  Toche good sir !
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  Is The Book of Revelation All About Me & My Generation?

  by ClubSandwich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jws believe the book of revelation offers an account of what is to come in their lifetime.

  but the problem is that every generation for the last 1900 years has thought the same thing.

  and, every generation has been wrong, even though each new one thinks it will be about me and my generation this time.. most reputable bible scholars believe that revelation, also called the apocalypse of john, was not written to describe the future for people living today.

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  I would think that, IF a prophetic vision were true, that a human would have one hell of time not only understanding ALL of what he/she was seeing but also being able to relate to that and even morse so, pass it one with imagery that his/her audience would understand.

  Can you imagine a jew in 3000BC getting a divine revelation about how the universe came to be? about the process of the universe expanding and evolving, of all life forming from natural matter and energy, about animals species adapting and evolving over millions of years !

  Can you imagine how he would be able to relate that to his fellow people ??
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  Believers and dinosaurs

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was curious to hear what other believers understand about dinosaurs.

  i know we have a few young earth creationists here.

  i wondered what you understand about dinosaurs and when they existed, as well as hear from those that believe dinosaurs lived millions of years ago and how it fits into the bible..

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  PSacramento

  I know, PSac, it's almost like pizza and beer for breakfast is a bad thing

  Blasphemer !!!
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  A thought experiment about what it means "to be" GOD

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  all believers in god begin with the premise that he is the creator.. but-stop!.

  go back one step.

  what about before god was a creator.. creation is the "beginning" for the created--but--not for god.. .

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  If he is in this universe doing something, then yes, him.

  If He is IN this universe, yes.

  Why wouldn't they be?

  Why should we assume that the reality of THIS universe (as we knwo it of course) applies to any other?
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  A thought experiment about what it means "to be" GOD

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  all believers in god begin with the premise that he is the creator.. but-stop!.

  go back one step.

  what about before god was a creator.. creation is the "beginning" for the created--but--not for god.. .

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  PSacramento

  So God created a Reality that.. can never understand him...

  It is a gradual process, look at what we understood about our universe 1000 years ago, compare it to now and imagine 1000 years from now.

  Did it just work out that way or did he do it on purpose... if so why...

  IMO, on purpose, too much knowledge is a dangerous thing at times and I think that when one is ready, one finds the answer.

  Again this is all conjecture of course.

  Nothing I am stating can be proven as fact, we do NOT know if there are multiple universe or parallel dimensions or if there is a God or even if He is anything like what we Think He maybe.
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  A thought experiment about what it means "to be" GOD

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  all believers in god begin with the premise that he is the creator.. but-stop!.

  go back one step.

  what about before god was a creator.. creation is the "beginning" for the created--but--not for god.. .

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  PSacramento

  So there is some observable event going on. That's my point. God is (if he exists) observable and thus subject to science.

  His interactions, yes, not necessarily Him.

  What does that have to do with God?

  If there are multi-universe or multi-dimensions then they are NOT subject to OUR reality, yes?
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  Believers and dinosaurs

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was curious to hear what other believers understand about dinosaurs.

  i know we have a few young earth creationists here.

  i wondered what you understand about dinosaurs and when they existed, as well as hear from those that believe dinosaurs lived millions of years ago and how it fits into the bible..

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  3. 
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  PSacramento

  Some people's gravity being more than others.

  *looks down at own waist line and contemplates more food*
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  Is The Book of Revelation All About Me & My Generation?

  by ClubSandwich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jws believe the book of revelation offers an account of what is to come in their lifetime.

  but the problem is that every generation for the last 1900 years has thought the same thing.

  and, every generation has been wrong, even though each new one thinks it will be about me and my generation this time.. most reputable bible scholars believe that revelation, also called the apocalypse of john, was not written to describe the future for people living today.

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  PSacramento

  Revelation deals with the immediate situation of the various congregations/churchs, it deals with the forseeable future and the persecutions happening and that will happen and it also forsees/prophecizes to a time where the final judgment and the restoration of ALL will happen.

  It is a multi-layed and multi-focused letter dealing with present, past, near future, far future and end of days.
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  A thought experiment about what it means "to be" GOD

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  all believers in god begin with the premise that he is the creator.. but-stop!.

  go back one step.

  what about before god was a creator.. creation is the "beginning" for the created--but--not for god.. .

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  PSacramento

  If there is a god and if the stories about him are true, he is constantly doing things that are perceived as part of this reality.

  That doesn't make him part of this realty, just that He can act within this reality.

  As you know, the hypothesis of multiple universes and/or parallel dimensions is something that is being viewed by some scientists as possible scenarios.
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  A thought experiment about what it means "to be" GOD

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  all believers in god begin with the premise that he is the creator.. but-stop!.

  go back one step.

  what about before god was a creator.. creation is the "beginning" for the created--but--not for god.. .

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  PSacramento

  I think you struck on a very important thing:

  Besdies which, there is nothing to suggest God is outside of our reality.

  SO you think that, if there is a God, that this being IS part of our reality? and if so, can be perceived?