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  ?Do JW only see the Negative Side of Life?

  by azaria in

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  allow me to vent for a while.

  both my parents are staunch jw for about 30 yrs.

  i have never been, and thankfully neither my three brothers.

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  jgnat

  Welcome, azaria. I am glad you found this fun place. Yes, from the outside looking in, Witnesses are a depressing bunch. I think this is because for a Witness, happiness is deferred for the New World Order, Just Around the Corner. "These Last Days" are "Full of Woe", to be endured, not enjoyed.

  Everything she talks about is the negative side of life and I almost feel that she is enjoying it on some level.

  Yes, every peice of bad news is jumped on, because it is one more nail in the coffin for this old world, and one more day closer to when the Witness can finally put his feet up and stop trudging from door to door.
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  The Watchtower Letters, part 2

  by NeonMadman in

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  here's the next entry in the series of examples of correspondence i had with the wts back during the 1970's (mostly).

  this letter concerns the establishment of the year 1918 as being the time for the "first resurrection," i.e., the resurrection to spirit life of the anointed ones who had died previous to that time.

  what i find interesting about this letter is that no attempt was made to address the question i actually asked.

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  jgnat

  Ain't search engines great? LOL. By the way, NeonMadman, thanks for sharing these letters! Fascinating reading.
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  Anyone here can post anything they want...how much is true?

  by berylblue in

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  as i wrote my last post about d. h. (the jw woman who was superficially shot by her abusive non-jw husband), it occured to me that the entire story sounded fabricated.

  but it got me thinking...i wonder how many of our posts here are fabricated, exaggerated or embellished?

  has anyone here actually been caught in an outright lie?

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  jgnat

  LOL, blackout. I got caught by your "cookie monster" story. When you made it clear it was a story only, it did not diminish how funny your story was. In my opinion.
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  Anyone here can post anything they want...how much is true?

  by berylblue in

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  2. friends

  as i wrote my last post about d. h. (the jw woman who was superficially shot by her abusive non-jw husband), it occured to me that the entire story sounded fabricated.

  but it got me thinking...i wonder how many of our posts here are fabricated, exaggerated or embellished?

  has anyone here actually been caught in an outright lie?

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  jgnat

  LOL Berylblue, good observation. Actually, thre are more than three sides. After all, what is Truth?

  I do notice the WTS can more easily dupe people who believe everything they read. And that some xJW's do carry that trait with them when they leave. Just because something sounds authoritative, or was told by somebody in a white lab coat, or ends with This is A True Story, does not mean we have to swallow it whole.

  There is plenty of believable material here. I appreciate that many posters quote their sources and provide scanned copies of the original material. That gives each of us a way to double-check their information (unlike the WT articles).
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 3-16-03 WT Study

  by blondie in

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  2. bible

  comments you will not hear at the 3-16-03 wt study

  february 1, 2003.

  "have love among yourselves".

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  jgnat

  Blondie, I think this is one of the most important articles to critique so far. Your message is clear and to the point. The purported message of the article is to love one another. Love is missing from the society. I maintain that the love will not be forthcoming until some fundamental changes are made in the organization. First of all, loving activity would have to be counted on the time card.
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  Anyone here can post anything they want...how much is true?

  by berylblue in

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  2. friends

  as i wrote my last post about d. h. (the jw woman who was superficially shot by her abusive non-jw husband), it occured to me that the entire story sounded fabricated.

  but it got me thinking...i wonder how many of our posts here are fabricated, exaggerated or embellished?

  has anyone here actually been caught in an outright lie?

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  jgnat

  I am pretty good at sniffing out urban legends and chain mail. I check to see if they advise you to BOMBARD (the victim) with E-MAILS and MAKE A DIFFERENCE, or promise that GREAT WEALTH AND BLESSINGS are on their way if you just spread this unsubstantiated rumor to ten of your friends. And if you do not, GREAT DISASTERS are on their way.

  Some joker thought it would be fun to post an ad in our local paper that the first Sasquatch had been found and would be on display at WinterFest. My office buddy was furious when she found out it was a hoax. I figured, hey, if it was real, we would have seen a lot more than a quarter page ad in the paper.

  On the morning of September 11, I said NO WAY, and went sniffing out the news wires on the internet. I am not sorry that I remained skeptical until I had secondary confirmation. My very next act was to phone my daughter and tell her "Something terrible has just happened."

  When reading articles here, ask what the poster might gain from providing that information. Most times, nothing except a sympathetic ear. I have no reason to doubt them. A lot of the factual information can be checked. Sometimes I do go and double-check.

  By the way, I am always very cautious when I see only one side of a personal dispute. There is always two sides to a story.
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  Article in the Awake about us "Apostate Fighters"

  by LuckyLucy in

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  2. friends

  today i was at work and a jw slipped a watchtower and awake in the mail slot.in the awake there is an article titled "is there an unforgivable sin?

  " here is a paragraph that caught my eye.. some people who were once faithful christians have purposely drawn away from god,perhaps because of bitterness,pride, or greed, and are now "apostate fighters" against god's spirit.they willfully oppose what the spirit is clearly accomplishing.

  have these induividuals committed the unforgiveable sin?

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  Gee, it wouldn't be that hard to create a complete spoof magazine. Somehow, I don't think our articles would get through the editors at Bethel. Unless they really are sleeping on the job. Hmmm. You have activated my creative gene.

  I would like to see an article on:

  Sports: heroes or idols? We could include a lovely shot of a catholic sports hero praying, hopefully with a crucifix in his hand. http://www.gnpcb.org/catalog/tracts.sports
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  Article in the Awake about us "Apostate Fighters"

  by LuckyLucy in

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  2. friends

  today i was at work and a jw slipped a watchtower and awake in the mail slot.in the awake there is an article titled "is there an unforgivable sin?

  " here is a paragraph that caught my eye.. some people who were once faithful christians have purposely drawn away from god,perhaps because of bitterness,pride, or greed, and are now "apostate fighters" against god's spirit.they willfully oppose what the spirit is clearly accomplishing.

  have these induividuals committed the unforgiveable sin?

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  jgnat

  By the way Amnesian, I caught your sarcasm! I laughed out loud. Have you considered working for the writing department (on a contract basis only, of course)?
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  Article in the Awake about us "Apostate Fighters"

  by LuckyLucy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i was at work and a jw slipped a watchtower and awake in the mail slot.in the awake there is an article titled "is there an unforgivable sin?

  " here is a paragraph that caught my eye.. some people who were once faithful christians have purposely drawn away from god,perhaps because of bitterness,pride, or greed, and are now "apostate fighters" against god's spirit.they willfully oppose what the spirit is clearly accomplishing.

  have these induividuals committed the unforgiveable sin?

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  jgnat

  LOL. I love your suggestions. Modern Day Apostate Fighers. Yaaah!

  I was gonna propose we send our best suggestions for terminology to the WTS, but I see from their website that there is no e-mail address to forward comments. Instead they want OUR name and address? (...and someone will be along to suggest a book study no doubt). NO place to give our comments? https://watch001.securesites.com/contact/submit.htm

  Forget it. Their complaints department must be growing mushrooms.
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  I am Going to Miss You All....Thank You for the Memories

  by Robdar in

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  2. friends

  dear friends,.

  the winds of change are blowing through my life right now.

  as some of you know, i am getting a divorce.

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  jgnat

  Oh, gee. I don't want to say goodbye forever. My best wishes follow you over the next little while as you establish your new life. And, selfishly, I hope you come back. Take care. Hugs and kisses.