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  JW teachings that have remained the same

  by Splash in

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  teachings that have remained the samewhen you highlight the continual ebb and flow of changing teachings, a jw may refer you to the long held teachings which have never changed.

  core doctrines such as the importance of using gods name, and the trinity, hellfire and immortality of the soul all being false.

  but even here things are not as simple as they could be:.

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  How about Paradise Earth? Rutherford introduced it in [1922/23???] at Cedar Point. But I would call it a "core" belief.

  Thank you. I've been trying to narrow down Witnesses to their core beliefs for some time. There's just so many.....
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  Freaking out a Jehovah's Witness

  by jgnat in

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  as you know, my husband has physically left the witnesses.

  he nevertheless clings to many of the beliefs like a protective cloak, and every once in a while i trigger a dissonant episode where my reality clashes with his.

  recently he listened in on my work research, a video of a futurist describing the a potential "disruptive change" event in the next fifteen years, as our culture shifts to autonomic (driverless) vehicles.

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  Stirred, are you talking about Terry's working list?
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  Freaking out a Jehovah's Witness

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as you know, my husband has physically left the witnesses.

  he nevertheless clings to many of the beliefs like a protective cloak, and every once in a while i trigger a dissonant episode where my reality clashes with his.

  recently he listened in on my work research, a video of a futurist describing the a potential "disruptive change" event in the next fifteen years, as our culture shifts to autonomic (driverless) vehicles.

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  About that "signs of the times" stuff, hubby often quotes Matthew 24:38, "people will be eating, drinking, marrying and given in marriage..." I have asked, "Are we supposed to stop eating, then? Isn't this simply describing what people have always done since the beginning of time?"
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  Freaking out a Jehovah's Witness

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as you know, my husband has physically left the witnesses.

  he nevertheless clings to many of the beliefs like a protective cloak, and every once in a while i trigger a dissonant episode where my reality clashes with his.

  recently he listened in on my work research, a video of a futurist describing the a potential "disruptive change" event in the next fifteen years, as our culture shifts to autonomic (driverless) vehicles.

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  Can you give some examples of overcoming the platitiudes, ABibleStudent? Off the top of my head, I'd try to appeal to their empathy, get them thinking outside themselves. As in, "Really? Put yourself in our neighbour's shoes for a moment. Do you think that Harry is hopelessly condemned?"
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  Freaking out a Jehovah's Witness

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as you know, my husband has physically left the witnesses.

  he nevertheless clings to many of the beliefs like a protective cloak, and every once in a while i trigger a dissonant episode where my reality clashes with his.

  recently he listened in on my work research, a video of a futurist describing the a potential "disruptive change" event in the next fifteen years, as our culture shifts to autonomic (driverless) vehicles.

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  Thanks, Watchtower-Free! That's my buddy, Hans Rosling!
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  Freaking out a Jehovah's Witness

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as you know, my husband has physically left the witnesses.

  he nevertheless clings to many of the beliefs like a protective cloak, and every once in a while i trigger a dissonant episode where my reality clashes with his.

  recently he listened in on my work research, a video of a futurist describing the a potential "disruptive change" event in the next fifteen years, as our culture shifts to autonomic (driverless) vehicles.

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  exWTslave, as you know, my goal for exiting witnesses who have a life partner at their side, is if at all possible, they exit together. It sure is a lot easier, if you are going through a life-transforming exercise, that the person you trust the most in the world is backing you up. It makes the whole transition that much kinder.

  Besides, if you have children together, you are in a sense joined at the hip anyways.

  I figure if I give a whole bunch of tips, techniques, and tools at your disposal, you can give it your best shot.
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  Freaking out a Jehovah's Witness

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as you know, my husband has physically left the witnesses.

  he nevertheless clings to many of the beliefs like a protective cloak, and every once in a while i trigger a dissonant episode where my reality clashes with his.

  recently he listened in on my work research, a video of a futurist describing the a potential "disruptive change" event in the next fifteen years, as our culture shifts to autonomic (driverless) vehicles.

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  A note about cognitive dissonance. If you make your point, drive it home. From what I read if you go soft after the challenge the person will grab on to any reason to hang on to their former belief, and the end result they will be stronger in their delusion. I know this sounds contrary to my usual advice. (softly softly catchee monkey) but maybe an analogy from the martial arts will help.

  When the cultist side is alert to a threat, be soft and neutral in your answer. This is like the duck and weave in boxing, or the step back in martial arts. Later when you introduce disconfirming information, kindly leave no wiggle room. Drive it home. One-two-knockout.
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  Freaking out a Jehovah's Witness

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as you know, my husband has physically left the witnesses.

  he nevertheless clings to many of the beliefs like a protective cloak, and every once in a while i trigger a dissonant episode where my reality clashes with his.

  recently he listened in on my work research, a video of a futurist describing the a potential "disruptive change" event in the next fifteen years, as our culture shifts to autonomic (driverless) vehicles.

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  Reading through the contributions, thanks. I agree about Pinker's book.
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  On A Scale of 1 to 10 How Would You Rate Your Looks?

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  1 is undesirable.

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  I have a warm and disarming face adored by grandchildren and lighting the eyes of hucksters. I swear I could breeze in to the National Treasury without a challenge. I am Girl Friday, I am Miss Moneypenny, I am Miss Marple.

  Rating is for fools.

  The hucksters, by the way, are no wealthier for meeting me.
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  JW.ORG TRADEMARK DENIED

  by NAVYTOWN in

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  i saw on another forum that the trademark application for the 'jw.org' logo had been denied by the trademark office.

  it is too similar to the logo of another company.

  there is an appeals process that presumably gives the watchtower a chance to get the decision reversed.

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  ...and as a delicious twist, one of the similar trademarks is for Janitor's World....