Posts by jgnat

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Saintly Sluttiness?

by patio34 in

i ran across this this morning at lucianne.com and thought it really had a different perspective than the usual bible-based values in a lot of our world today (that aren't really adhered to anyway).

i highlighted the pertinent parts, imo.

i put it in bible research because it contradicts the bible and is based on evolutionary science.

jgnat

By contrast, try to imagine the results of a sexless marriage.

I just gotta reply to this. I suggest that many lifetime partners eventually end up in a sexless marriage, for reasons of health, age, or performance. People cannot remain "up" all the time (pardon the pun). By adopting a promiscuous lifestyle, women absolve their partners from involvement in the raising of their children. Also, stepfathers are not as devoted to their children as the natural father. This is biological. By taking the lion's share of the parenting duties, the woman also hurts her long-term financial future. Remaining in a relationship "only while the sex is good" will leave the aged and infirm alone, without support. Taking some statistics gathered from women's rights groups,

The average woman of the same age group still makes less than her male counterpart. Statiticians have speculated that this may be a result of women remaining at home for a period of time during her childbearing years, thereby interrupting her wage earning potential.
The plight of widows in our country is even more alarming. Many are living below the poverty level. One reasons cited for this is that more women of our past generation remained at home, and were depending on their husband's pension in their declining years. With rising divorce rates, some of these women ended up with no pension of their own, nor very much from their ex-husbands, either.

Sex is a great start, but not the end to devotion that partners can display for each other. I know this is possible. I have met many lifetime couples, and I quiz them regularly on what makes their relationship "tick". Is it guilt? Nope. Is it sex? Nope. Misplaced attachment to social mores? Nope. I have noted a solid determination and an enduring friendship in these couples. They are well able to weather the storms of life together.

By socially capable, i mean more understanding, outgoing, able to converse, being better at the social arts

Are you suggesting that someone like me is less socially capable, less understanding, because I chose to live by the Judeo-Christian ethic? That does sound like an insult...have any data to back that up?

Edited by - jgnat on 20 August 2002 20:3:1

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XJW Scams Resteraunt.....

by hillary_step in

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friends

i think most of us at some time have had the experience of overhearing a conversation while travelling, or in a coffee shop, and realizing that we are listening to a crafty jw in the middle of preaching.

you know the type of thing, "wont it be nice when god steps in and clears up all these problems", problems incidentally that they have just spent the past thirty minutes listing to their hapless listeners in morbid detail.

no-one cherishes their collection of grim news quite like a jw.

jgnat

....may we never lose the ability to laugh at ourselves...that is something THEY cannot do...

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JW Family, How Do They Drive You Up The Wall?

by Celtic in

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friends

many of us still have jw family still very much held within the congregation.

personally, i love my family but they do have this uncanny ability at times to absolutely drive me nuts in sheer exasperation.

the things particularly that really gets my goat are the following: .

jgnat

The Brick Wall. I come up with an elegant and reasonable rebuttal, or point out some inconsistencies in WTS history and doctrine, and all I get is the pleasant, indulgent smile. "You poor, lost soul, you. Lucky I got the Truth."

On the lighter side, I think there are many opportunities to annoy the heck out of JW family and friends. Stiff people are easy to knock over.

Send lovely pics from Holidays, Birthdays, Thanksgiving, and Christmas. "Having a Wonderful Time" "Wish You Were Here" "Sorry you couldn't make it, maybe next time"
Respond with the pleasant, indulgent smile. "Lucky for me I can think."
Hide the comb.
Mismatch all the navy and black socks.
Excuse me, honey. Gotta take control of the remote for a sec. Oooh, look! Dateline!
Sing Christmas Carols in July
Honey, I am pretty sure you should not be listening to the anthem before the game. Better leave the room.

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Let's play Un-Theocratic Ministry School

by Mindchild in

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friends

i thought it would be a nice break from things to have a little fun and at the same time fine tune our jw repellant skills.

so it is time for another round of un-theocratic ministry school.

for this presentation my fine ex-jw friends, we will play door to door games with dubs.

jgnat

<looking a little dazed> Boy, that was a real mouthful. JOHNNY YOU COME BACK HERE RIGHT NOW! Your'e not one of them cults, are you? JOHNNY!. Here. Could you hold the baby a moment? See the pretty tie... Be right back.

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I'd like to introduce myself.......

by DJ in

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friends

my name is donna.

i was directed to this forum through freeminds.org by randy watters.

i found his site to be very helpful to me and i highly recommend it to other newbies.

jgnat

If you don't mind, I have taken your paragraph and made a list.

(I am a compulsive list maker).

To Win my Loved Ones Back

It was a trial for me of extreme patience and tongue holding
I simply bombarded them with loving words to defeat their nastiness. The key was just never ending love.
Silence in the face of their ranting is helpful sometimes
other times just a gentle word or two would do.
They are victims, self-righteous as they may be, they are still victims.
To gently show the love of Christ through words or deeds proved to tame them eventually.
I do whatever needs to be done for my parents because I love them despite their nonsense
There is no mystery here, just doing for others what I would want done for me, loving them

I've got my papa's love back and they can never ever take him from me again.

Thank you DJ, for your words of wisdom.

Edited by - jgnat on 19 August 2002 20:24:0

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Let's play Un-Theocratic Ministry School

by Mindchild in

jw
friends

i thought it would be a nice break from things to have a little fun and at the same time fine tune our jw repellant skills.

so it is time for another round of un-theocratic ministry school.

for this presentation my fine ex-jw friends, we will play door to door games with dubs.

jgnat

Yeah, right. And the vaccum salesman is just here to clean my carpets. Are you guys Christians? JOHNNY! I TOLD YOU TO STOP THAT. Bring the baby here!

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Saintly Sluttiness?

by patio34 in

i ran across this this morning at lucianne.com and thought it really had a different perspective than the usual bible-based values in a lot of our world today (that aren't really adhered to anyway).

i highlighted the pertinent parts, imo.

i put it in bible research because it contradicts the bible and is based on evolutionary science.

jgnat

I have chosen to abide by the Judeo-Christian ethic of sticking to one partner, with limited success. Regardless, I still believe it is the best option for women and children. I think my daughter would have higher esteem today, if she had a strong male father figure who had loved and cared for her. If I had relations with a dozen men, any of which might be the father, would they all stick around to raise the fruit of their labours?

Even the slutty animals understand their familial obligations. Common English Sparrows are "doing it" in the snow before there is even a hint of spring, and are hogging the best nesting sites from then on. Regardless how temporary their "marriage" is, both partners hang around until the children are grown, sacrificing their own health and well-being for the next generation (watch those skinny parents hop!).

There is something noble and lovely about watching Canada Geese, who mate for life. They are devoted and loyal to death. I know I am capable of loving that deep, and sincerely hope there is someone that could care for me that much, as well.

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Let's play Un-Theocratic Ministry School

by Mindchild in

jw
friends

i thought it would be a nice break from things to have a little fun and at the same time fine tune our jw repellant skills.

so it is time for another round of un-theocratic ministry school.

for this presentation my fine ex-jw friends, we will play door to door games with dubs.

jgnat

So you are selling bibles, then? I already have a bible. Johnny! Stop pulling your sister's hair!

Edited by - jgnat on 19 August 2002 14:37:48

75

Let's play Un-Theocratic Ministry School

by Mindchild in

jw
friends

i thought it would be a nice break from things to have a little fun and at the same time fine tune our jw repellant skills.

so it is time for another round of un-theocratic ministry school.

for this presentation my fine ex-jw friends, we will play door to door games with dubs.

jgnat

Sorry, spider. Got distracted by dinner. OK, I am a frazzled housewife saturday morning.

"What are you selling?"

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Tiring of Anti-JW causes?

by ashitaka in

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friends

i'm kind of burnt out from being pissed off at jws.

tonight, while talking to a friend who left at the same time i did (several years ago), we both spoke of our apathy towards the whole anti-witness movement.

recently i helped in several anti-jw actions, and i thought i made a difference, although it was a pittens compared to others who have come before.

jgnat

How about Christendom's concept of a sabbatical, Farkel and ashitaka? Go and get refreshed and come back to give us another go? You know, after 6 "days" of creating, declare it all mightily good and have a break?

Edited by - jgnat on 18 August 2002 22:48:53