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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I didn't think Andrew did too bad of job. I think he used a bit of soft gloves on him but he also let Lloyd hang himself with his own rope. Many non ex-jws will see straight through Lloyd and this could bring more public blowback on him. This was a horrible PR move on his part, but no shock there.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  This interview was a disaster. Lloyd refused to acknowledge the issue of prostitutes and sex trafficking/abuse. He also admitted he "dated" a prostitute in Thailand. This was a really really really dumb move by him. Especially going on to someone's show that knows very little about Lloyd. His Patreon will take another hit because of this.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I emailed you Tibor. Now answer my question. Why do you feel it is totally ok for Lloyd to use prostitutes while advocating on behalf of abuse survivors.

  Thank you for responding.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  @Tibor did Lloyd understand that if he publically told people part of the funds he raised were going to support his habit of seeing prostitutes that he wouldn't raise as much funding? Did he understand that when he admitted his habit of seeing prostitutes that he was going to lose Patreon supporters?
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  SAD news about OOMPA......

  by redredrose in

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  our friend, oompa, has passed away.

  just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.

  it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.

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  I want to throw in my experiance of Eric. A few years ago I ran an ex JW meetup group here in Charlotte, NC. At the time my screenname was burgertime (I was banned for awhile). Anyways Eric contacted me about coming to the meetup. I gave him directions and he showed up. I would explain Eric as a force to be reakoned with. He had ton of energy and was a very happy go lucky guy on the surface.

  Just to tell you what kind of guy Eric was, at the time I didn't own a vehicle I took the bus or walked everywhere. The place we were meeting was a ten minute walk from my house. Well Eric met me at my house at the time and had non of it. He forced me to ride "bitch" on his motorcycle. He then asked if I wanted a moped since he owned a store that sold them. I said sure, and that I would pay for it. He argued that I shouldn't pay for it and I argued back that I should. We came to a deal that I would pay what he paid which was around $400. To be honest I figured he was just talking to be talking and trying to be nice but would never follow through. Well two weeks later he shows up with a brand new Scooter in tow to drop off. He told me I could pay him whatever for however long it took. To say I was shocked didn't quite put into words how I felt. That same day he dropped off my scooter I gave him my copies of In Search of Christian Freedom, Apocalypse Delayed and Crisis of Concious so I like to think it was a fair trade lol. Anyways I paid the scooter off in like a months time and I hung out with Eric another time outside of that. He was someone who cared very little about himself and wanted nothing but to please everyone.
  
  All that being said, looking back I can see that he probably suffered from being bi-polar or more than likely was manic depressive. My Dad was diagnosed bi-polar and him and Eric are very similiar, though again my guess would probably be manic. When that is a factor it's no wonder he was pushed over the edge. I don't think the WTBS is totally to blame but again it's obviously a major factor...if nothing else I'm sure it stopped him from getting help when he should have which would have been early on in his life.
  
  I haven't talked to Eric since probably 3 years ago, but I'll always remember him. So here's to you my wild friend. Hopefully whever you are you're riding your motorcycle and having a laugh.
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  Here's a good one the Jehovah's witnesses are worse than Nazi's

  by Star tiger in

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  i'm not sure if this is a controversial subject or not, i suspect it is, the 1936-1945 nazi regime were the most evil b*****d's in the world and thankfully were destroyed, however the jehovah's witnesses having sufffered under their rule, then became even more evil not by destroying the person's physical life, but destroying their way to god, if a person leaves then they become dead to god, and this from a second rate publishing company!

  please don't think i'm being flippant about all the suffering and death the nazi's caused, but as we are most of us spiritual people, surely the witnesses caused a catastrophy in the post 1945 era.. best regards,.

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  Wow thread disaster. Mods do your job and move this to where it belongs as this is neither a scandel or a coverup. As for the OP comparing WT to Nazis and saying it's worse? I'm sure there are a lot of dead Jews and WWII vets that would strongly disagree with you and their families would much rather they live as JW's than dead by the Nazi's hand.
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  I must stop playing with the JWs on the independent

  by nugget in

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  i have become seriously addicted and think i may need help.

  i keep posting comments on the independent article in response to silly jw comments.

  i am surprised by the level of ignorance displayed on the simplest of doctrines and shocked by their passion.

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  Ministerial Servant charged with soliciting sex

  by pr0ner in

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  http://www.gastongazette.com/news/sex-56219-officer-sting.html.

  this guy goes to a hall in gastonia nc....i believe the south hall, it has split into four congregations now but back in the day he went to the south.

  his dad was a very respected elder in the hall.

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  Cause it's backwards Gastonia, they still think that being gay is a crime.
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  Ministerial Servant charged with soliciting sex

  by pr0ner in

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  http://www.gastongazette.com/news/sex-56219-officer-sting.html.

  this guy goes to a hall in gastonia nc....i believe the south hall, it has split into four congregations now but back in the day he went to the south.

  his dad was a very respected elder in the hall.

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  http://www.gastongazette.com/news/sex-56219-officer-sting.html

  This guy goes to a hall in Gastonia NC....I believe the South hall, it has split into four congregations now but back in the day he went to the south. His Dad was a very respected elder in the hall. Anyways he is currently a MS. My brother and I were discussing who we thought might be gay and living a double life, I said this guy's brother and my brother said, "no more like Brian, he is a freak" he then went on to tell me a story about going to Carowinds with a group of young girls and he was being very "creepy" around the young girls...of course it looks like he is either bi or gay now so who knows. Anyways how funny.
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  JW's Came to the Door

  by pr0ner in

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  boy she didn't know what she was walking into.

  it was a wealthy (she drove a lexus and was very well dressed) middle aged woman with a younger girl.

  she used the typical line this time of year asking if i knew where the origins of christmas came from.

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  lolz gotta love the troll squad.

  Anyways thanks you guys. I've noticed the best tact to take with JW's at the door is to never give away too much that you know about them or were associated with them. They tend to stick around longer if you simply act like you know a ton about the bible but not much about their religion (when they ask how you know so much about the bible tell them you went to school for religious studies). Most JW's have a well of bible versus but never go outside of those individual scriptures for context. Every time she would turn to a scripture I would say, "now lets read what was before and after" then point out that her scripture didn't have much to do with our argument in the context of the chapter. This usually always dead ends JW's since critical thinking is a no-no.

  Another thing I pointed out to her was how silly their name was. The question they can never answer is, "Paul had no problem calling himself Christian, why do you?". It always gets the same response, "we are Christian, but we are witnesses of Jehovah". To which I again just said, "Paul didn't call himself that, to the nations he was known as a Christian", it's another thing they never think about that they usually can't wiggle out of. She was most def. having a hard time and you could tell it in the way she was thinking out loud.