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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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pr0ner

@Vintage is that Polish law? Either way, his legal counsel could find an exit that doesn't materially hurt the client. For instance, wouldn't refunding him his money satisfy that as he'd be able to retain other legal counsel early? Or agree to transfer the case? These might be more preferable than getting your law firm dragged online. Maybe though, Lloyd wouldn't agree to any terms?
I'm so fascinated how Lloyd thinks this will play out. He must think he can just run out the clock but the cat is out of the bag. Each move just hurts him more.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
pr0ner

I get lawyers sometimes can get bamboozled by their clients but at this point Lloyd's lawyer has to know the score. This is where I do think public pressure in a non harassment way is a good thing. Law firms who knowingly persue bad cases in an effort to shut up dissant should have to suffer the PR consequences of thier actions. In this case it gets tough cause they operate in Croatia so likely the PR from people in other countries doesn't bother them. What's funny is from all angles Lloyd looks like a fool. His legal council is laughing all theway to the bank.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
pr0ner

@Tibor, I hope you're proud of yourself for standing up and behind Lloyd.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
pr0ner

Lloyd's Public Relations firm is not doing a very effective job.
@NonCoinCollector That's another thing he clearly isn't spending any money there. I guess they told him that focusing on just 7 would rehabilitate his image? Maybe they suggested he do public outreach by suggesting that AltWorldly and Andrew Gold were simply manipulated in all this? Come on.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
pr0ner

Followed by "so once again I need your help, my loyal patreons ... please, dig deep and give me all the money you can, because Lloyd needs to take care of his girls"
(admit it, you can picture his droning / pleading voice saying those exact words with that "fake earnest" inflection)
@Simon. At that point, that's all that the money will before. He probably paid his lawyer around €2k if even that. I think his lawyer probably did him a favor as a long-term client. He paid that amount solely to save face. He keeps pulling his attention back to himself. How can a marriage possibly withstand someone that needs this much attention? His behavior has always been rinse and repeat, the problem for him now is that he came up against a force and culture that creates a problematic consequence for him. From his own words he seemed addicted to paying for sex. Addicts will do anything, like paying €2k to only save face.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
pr0ner

@Dagney if it is a civil suit he has lost right out of the gate. The law in Croatia states that the court with jurisdiction is where the harm was committed for non-citizens. He can't file a suit non-residents of Croatia.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
pr0ner

It is the courthouse. I said this on twitter but I suspect what he is actually doing is making a "complaint" asking the government to open an inquiry. His problem is that according to Croatian law when criminal proceedings are filed the jurisdiction lands with where the crime was committed. For Lloyd, that means the crime would be so egregious they could convince, the UK or the US hold court proceedings. Then a special act has to be made for the sentencing. So for this to move forward 2 countries would have to agree to use tax euros/pounds/dollars for a bloggers hurt feelings. Oh, the kicker is that under Croatian law if you can't afford a lawyer one will be appointed to you. So now they have to pay for at least some legal fees on a case that would be weak at best (and that's being generous).

Lloyd is going to file the complaint and claim it's with the law and now his hands are tied. He can just keep claiming it's being worked on. Then in a few months make some fake disappointed video saying how the authorities decided not to pursue the case because violent crime is up there so they just don't have time... but they said they will look into it when things slow down. Bet.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
pr0ner

I didn't think Andrew did too bad of job. I think he used a bit of soft gloves on him but he also let Lloyd hang himself with his own rope. Many non ex-jws will see straight through Lloyd and this could bring more public blowback on him. This was a horrible PR move on his part, but no shock there.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
pr0ner

This interview was a disaster. Lloyd refused to acknowledge the issue of prostitutes and sex trafficking/abuse. He also admitted he "dated" a prostitute in Thailand. This was a really really really dumb move by him. Especially going on to someone's show that knows very little about Lloyd. His Patreon will take another hit because of this.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
pr0ner

~~I emailed you Tibor. Now answer my question. Why do you feel it is totally ok for Lloyd to use prostitutes while advocating on behalf of abuse survivors.~~
Thank you for responding.