I can confirm that Lloyd has been dropped by the Athiest community he was in with. Evidently having the stink of going to Thailand and hanging out with sex workers isn't a great look there either. Also I'm sure he thinks he can wait it out likean actual celebrity could but the big difference is that celebrities actually make large sums of money for those that surround them. He really has almost no value to anyone on YouTube now.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Notice she says "sex workers" implying he engaged with multiple ones. She also straight up says he lied about the "dating" aspect.
In order to file a lawsuit binding all of the defendants together, there would need to be something we all shared as a "lie". I could really only think of two points he could focus his lawsuit on. The claim he saw prostitutes in Thailand and the claim he engaged with a minor during his JW days. The M7 never stated the accusation of grooming as far as I'm aware, at least I know I never said that. In fact I even stated I didn't buy it, and shared the message by Dijana saying it wasn't true. So the only other point he could go against us on is the Thailand bit.
This really blows everything up, especially his shifting stories. This is the smoking gun he can't escape.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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No this was an American woman who was with Lloyd in Texas. Here is the screenshot I got when she posted to Andrew Gold's YouTube channel. I had the date confused but it's gotta be why Lloyd had to write everything he did around it. He knew that others knew the truth and had the receipts. He came out with that ridiculous "all were over the age of..." nonsense as soon as I announced I would be doing my video interview with Kim.
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@ Simon
Regarding concept of letting your opposition run wild I can understand that. One the conspiracies I could maybe understand is that WT could treat him with kid gloves if he had something damning against them like others have brought up... that being said I'm skeptical of that as well just because they did at one point try to shut him down. I think they just realized (unlike with him) it probably wasn't worth their money. I also wouldn't put it past WT to hire a firm to look into who they see as threats to their org and collect what dirt they can. I could totally buy into that they knew he was going to eventually self-destruct or be found out so watch and laugh. But that's me with the tin-foil hat on.
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@ Las Malvinas son Argentinas
You're missing one key piece of information. There was an ex JW YouTuber (I'd need to find the screenshot) who was a former sex worker (IIRC). Just before the Andrew Gold video she revealed he had sent her text messages bragging about seeing sex worker(s) in Thailand. This is when his narrative changed. My guess is one of the points he'll try to claim that we the M7 lied about was his use of prostitutes in Thailand. He would try to claim a he-said/they-said defense that he actually was dating a prostitute. This kind of got lost in the shuffle and to me it's the smoking gun that he can't wriggle out of. It really blew up his entire defense. -
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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The idea that Lloyd is paid/controlled opposition is kind of laughable to me. If it's paid opposition then WT truly is stupid and so is Lloyd. It also would mean that Kim would have to be paid/controlled by the opposition since she blew the whistle on Lloyd which was all part of the plan right? That's where it all starts falling apart. WT and Lloyd are so skilled they hatched a years-long plan to get Kim to tell on Lloyd but also Lloyd and WT are so dumb they often stumble on the most basic of easy-to-contain issues.
It makes way more sense that he has always been a manipulative narcissistic man baby who was good at shouting over people because his content made for better YouTube viewing to those who just exited. Now he just pulled a stunt that instead of dividing a small chunk, united the masses against him.
By the way if anyone has any actual evidence please reach out to me as I have the contact info a legit journalist in the UK who would be able to verify it's actually real. Everytime I've made this offer it's always met with radio silence which makes me even more suspect.
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Groups like Extinction Rebellion aren't exactly hurting for press coverage due to the nature of their protests. I think Evans thought he could bring Tibor, tell them he was a "filmmaker" and they'd be glad he was on-board... They want participants, not some guy with a camera who would be the first to yell "Press" the minute the police came to haul them away.
Also, another thing is that typically these groups have a chain of command and someone giving approvals or denials to the press. My bet is he showed up and got told he had to email their comms director for approval, that they wouldn't let him film unless he did that first. He probably tried to wow them with his YouTube numbers hoping he could convince them but the didn't budge. If he had to admit that his filming was halted because he didn't do the most basic first step he looks extremely foolish.
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Pr0ner I think he holds a special resentment toward you because you really had his number.
I have my on little pet theory on this, why he is so angry with me. He was coming on to the scene just as I was leaving and I was a very prolific poster on here. I also never hid that I was working in the porn industry. This always gave me some small celebrity status in the ex-JW world (which I for sure beat over people's head...sorry). I always got the feeling that he respected me only because I was in that industry. Over the years Lloyd and I always had friendly interactions but never really spoke in depth so it was never verified.
When he had his meltdown over the latest scandal I remember it all clicking for me since I've dealt with a lot of men like him, especially when I was working in porn. Which is that often they would assume I was some pervert like them or ok hearing about their bizarre sexual habits. When I would explain how that wasn't me or that I thought they were weirdos for telling me this stuff, the narcissistic ones would always lose their cool. Because they felt I was some liar or that they had been duped. This guy they respected only for this dumb superficial reason didn't respect them back. That's the worst thing that can happen to them.
I think he thought of all people I would be cool with him and back him up. When I didn't and knew his game it was the ultimate betrayal. Narcissistic people have a hard enough time respecting anyone so anyone they actually respect who takes them to the woodshed is too much for them to handle. I have no real evidence this is why but it fits the MO of people in my past to a t.
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What a strange way to frame not filming the environmentalists. Saying he couldn't cover them "fairly and honestly" seems to imply that he was catching them in lies. Perhaps he means they were making plans that couldn't be filmed but again why say the activists wouldn't allow you to cover it honestly? Wonder how their group feels about them being portrayed this way?
