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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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"Governing Hotty"... has that always been there or was this his "new and improved" branding? Newly single with a private whatsapp group. Yep, this will end well.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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@DerekMoors Personally, I find court reporters fascinating. They do a necessary civic duty and probably understand the court system better than most lawyers. Fun fact; Fiona Apple the singer-songwriter is a court reporter. Had it been from someone other than Lloyd it would have been fascinating and shared all over the place. It's not on Reddit, it's not being clipped and shared around on Twitter (from what I can tell). I think he was extremely lucky to get that court reporter. It's just too bad just by association it's tainted her, which she'll figure out and I doubt will want to have anything to do with him then.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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@Toblerone5 She is very pro Lloyd and doesn't care about what he did. I also don't believe she wants to engage in honest debate about it either. For whatever reason, she has loyalty to Lloyd.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
pr0ner

He did a live stream on YouTube where he talked about the PA sex abuse case and had a court reporter on to help explain it.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
pr0ner

This Diana woman says she doesn't care about his past but my feeling is she may change her mind. I could totally see her telling someone on the internet she doesn't care then confronting Lloyd about it after having a think over it. As a court reporter she surely would have a radar to how somoene reacts when confronted. Wally can't be the only person who contacted her or will contact her.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
pr0ner

@Slimboyfat One theory I had on his no-money outburst was that he may have had to pay for something that day that he didn't think was fair. It might have been about paying for his kids haircut feeling his wife should do it. It seemed too random with the details and manic. Looked like a lot of misplaced anger to me. But that's just me playing armchair psychologist.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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@Simon
This is why I think Lloyd is missing a few marbles. He's not just *not* smart, he's actually dumb.
It's curious that the psychologist Andrew Gold interviewed (couldn't find the video on Andrew's page) about Lloyd mentioned he felt he was a psychopath (IIRC). The definition of a psychopath: a mentally unstable person especially: a person having an egocentric and antisocial personality marked by a lack of remorse for one's actions, an absence of empathy for others, and often criminal tendencies.
Psychopaths can be cunning while calm yet totally stupid when they feel insulted often acting instead of thinking.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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@Las Malvinas son Argentinas Very good point about him saying it wasn't negotiable. Didn't even put that together. As you state makes a very strong case for extortion. Also probably very wise not to hire a lawyer. I priced a few but in the end I think we all kind of feel like there isn't any point right now.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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@DerekMoors How I understand it (also not a lawyer), is there can't be tampering if there isn't a trial. They would have to actually charge him with a crime first, then he would need to put pressure on Kim to recant, fail to answer or change her testimony. That's when it becomes tampering and not before the criminal is charged with the crime. What you're saying is criminal coercion. Not sure if Croatia has a law on this.
Interestingly enough I've always wondered if an AG in the US could launch a case against WTBS charging them with criminal coercion on the state level for covering up child sex abuse. It would be pretty easy to get a jury to dislike WTBS. If they showed up and seized documents and servers it would probably be a treasure trove for investigators.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
pr0ner

@DerekMoors Very interesting legal theory with regards to witness tampering. I'd think it wouldn't be a crime until someone is an actual witness in a living case. Because the "tampering" is done to affect the trial, not the crime. At this point, he's simply asked that there be a trial.
If he were some hated public figure I'd think the government could for sure go for extortion. In our case, I think it's a very big legal hill to climb. Their claim will be that they were simply requesting damages be paid. Not worth the government's time. Just like if Lloyd's legal team(?) got some sympathetic prosecutor no way the case gets cleared up the ladder. For both financial and jurisdictional reasons.
Interesting to think about but will probably never happen.