@Vintage
It works when you're an actual celebrity. People are happy just to get next to your shine. He still thinks he can recover from this which maybe there is some tiny chance he can. His other problem is that he doesn't do anything special anymore. His specialty was his personal brand and since that's now damaged he has nothing. He certainly can't win the battle on short-form entertaining content which means he's just stuck with long interviews which pretty much anyone can do. He desperately needs a good collaborator but that isn't happening.