It's freaking hilarious that he claims people should let him vent and be angry...then has the nerve to ask when he didn't let this happen with others. He went even further. He wouldn't even let people who were simply sympathetic to Kim speak to him. 
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Newly Enlightened I tried to find the case but couldn't find anything on it. I'm guessing this person was going beyond just asking questions. There's a difference between cart crashing/harassment and recording an interaction, an interaction that could easily be construed as investigative by someone who could claim they're a member of the media.
I think a much better question is what exactly is he trying to accomplish? This was just a stunt hoping he could increase viewership. I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to cop rebellion extinctions gimmick but as an ex-jw in hopes he can reinvent himself. Would explain him going to the ER event. -
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Posted on twitter about this but Lloyd likely broke no laws with his recording of JWs. It's perfectly legal to video tape the public where there is no expectation of privacy i.e. a public sidewalk or train station. Furthermore, you can also record someone without their consent, and journalists are even more protected if you make those recordings public. As much as it may pain some on here he can easily make this claim. While I doubt any court in the UK would side with the JWs, why in the world would anyone here want that? As much as I dislike the man if a court sides with the JWs it would have a chilling effect not only on how legit journalists could report on JWs it would have a chilling effect on how anyone could report on a dangerous cult.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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I think the whole grooming/CSA allegations are a pointless rabbit hole to go down right now. Even if you could prove the emails are real (as in an actual email) it doesn't mean anything. You need a witness to the crime. Even if Dijana said that lloyd admitted such or some other person made this claim you would still need the victim. If it is real it's likely to be a dead end until the actual victim comes out.
I have some suspicions about all this anyways. One big flag for me was how Mark O'Donnel's statement was written and how Leah Remini handled the allegations. It was as if they had seen hard evidence that the allegations weren't real. This would make sense if the allegations were fabricated and Lloyd could prove they were.
Call it a conspiracy or whatever but I think either Lloyd or someone close to Lloyd wanted to prove how his "haters" would take anything and run with it. So they "leaked" this story and then shared what they did with Lloyd. He realized most wouldn't believe it since no victim existed and it died on its own. What that scammer went after Mark, Cora, Mikey and Kim that sealed it for me.
Why wouldn't Lloyd publicly come out with the info? If his fingerprints are actually on it that could hurt him. So keeping it lowkey works better. It makes his "haters" look like frothers. The more exposure the evidence its fake gets the closer it could tie Lloyd to it so he could have a reason to keep it in a tight group.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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As others have pointed out this shows how terrible his work ethic is. I was contributing to an artist I liked on Patreon. She had monthly calls. It didn't matter if 1 or ten showed up. She did them every month because that's what was promised. Even if it's just one fan you still owe them what they paid for and were promised.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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As for Lloyd demanding that the IISCA release the database. Would they have even had the legal authority to do that without some protracted drawn out court case? I get pushing that this should be something that gets codified into law but he seems to think they could just snap their fingers and religious orgs would hand over everything. Very on brand for Lloyd.
It’s clear he has no clue how governments work given this and his own lawsuit against us. It seems the only thing he has actually spent time researching is prostitutes and JWs.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Mate don’t confuse “woke” for PR which is what Lloyd does. Also to parody’s defense both sides do it. The hard right does exactly what you’re saying too. The idea that this is an exclusive hard left thing is laughable. 4chan and Wikifarms have been doing the thing the “woke left” has for like 15 years. It was essentially their playbook. It’s really just extreme humans on the internet. Also it was done before the internet. Celebrities were “cancelled” by the public and those outraged by their actions since black and white tv. Fatty Arbuckle is a great example from the 20’s. His films were banned because the public was so outraged at an insinuation.
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As for can he change... I'm betting he won't. He's in his 40's and refuses to even bend on something so obvious. The fact that he is blindly moving forward tells me all I need to know. Unless something truly catastrophic happen to him it'll never happen and even then he'd probably put on a good face to the outside world and likely still keep his bad mentality in private.
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It's amazing isn't it? Literally he could salvaged everything if he just said, "Recently I let down not only my wife but my friends and followers. I'm sorry to anyone I hurt and request time and space to not only work on my relationship with my family but also myself". That simple. Then he could have just come back in 3 months and stated he was going to focus on content. It isn't like this is some novel concept all he had to do was look back over the last 30 years of scandals to see the winning formula. If he can't even do that then there isn't any hope for him. His following will stay small.
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@Las Malvinas son Argentinas
This was something I hit him on early which he denied (IRRC). Between his tweets and content, it was clear he was trying to play the fun Dad who dotes on his daughter and pulls his wife out of her shell. It still baffles me how his defenders could stand behind that he could be this great loving husband and Dad while also lying to his wife and paying for sex behind her back for months.
Also the prostitutes are just what we know about. I'm waiting for some poor former fan of his to come out of the woodwork in all this. I don't and never have bought at all that he was only seeing sex workers. My prediction is that within a year some new woman will probably #metoo him. Jillian is probably lucky she didn't engage much further with him cause he def. had a thirst for her.