@TonusOH agree. The thing they all have in common is they were caught in lies and instead of just admitting it, saying sorry and moving on they instead choose to double down. Lloyd and others who complain about cancel culture often miss the forest for the trees. It often isn't so much the thing that they did... it's how they treated their audience AFTER they were called out on it.
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Ok, this is 4 hours long but it really reminded me of Lloyd with how these YouTubers who just rip off good content in the most lazy way possible. Just be clear I haven't seen any evidence of Lloyd doing that in his his videos. But what was earily similar was how those YouTubers justify lying to their audiance. Attacking the ones calling them out on their lies. Saying it's a "harassment" campaign. Once you realize how big YouTube grifting is, is it any wonder there is so much going on?
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Saw this online. The first part of the video is Lloyd to a T.
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@LMSA don’t forget it started with he only saw sex workers and didn’t date any cause that would be cheating and he never cheated on his wife. -
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The dumbest thing ever is if for those years he was YouTubing had he tried to learn the art of it, he would have no problem finding a job. Companies are desperate for good content people and they usually pay well too. The only thing he's managed to master is being a smug interviewer. Unfortunately for him, there aren't many jobs that need a smug broadcaster for ex-JW and religious content.
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Loser is the best description right now. Dude is 45 trying to attract a 25 year old and failing hard. Imagine, being that age and deciding you're going to become a musician or a stand-up comedian and having no experience in either. Hats off to him if he can somehow pull it off but these are called a young persons game for a reason. It is extremely, extremely hard for him to break through. Now imagine trying to do that and when people google you they find out you had an addiction to prostitutes.
Speaking of his dating life, its hard enough to date when your divorced without tons of baggage. When I was going through my divorce I dated a woman casually and mentioned being married before but didn't get into the details, so she started digging on her own. She thought I was still married because my ex-wife didn't change her status on facebook. Even with an amicable breakup some found the divorce just in itself a red flag. For Lloyd it's it's gonna make 99% of women run.So now you have a 45 year old man who had delusions of grandeur, living alone, probably not being able to get a date and no real possibilities to earn a living. All brought on himself because his ego wouldn't allow him to just fess up and apologize for hurting his audience.
With all this, he hasn't needed to take a mental health break from his audience.
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Don’t worry it’s about to pick up again and Lloyd has tripled down on the clownery -
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He’s just dumb enough to argue “income” is what you make after expenses and taxes. He’s likely calling a lot of holiday travel work since he tweets during it. He’s probably got some way of making the cost of gas he used to see his sex workers an expense. So his total “income” is low.
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This is a common thing in Croatia, so it makes sense why a lawyer there would be ok doing it. There are currently 935 cases ongoing just against journalists. Seems to be a common practice. This to me at least explains the lawyer angle. His lawyer should be willing to step aside so as not to hurt their client with an untriable case. Makes you wonder if there is a bar association and how seriously they take these sorts of things.
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For me, aside from the second-hand evidence which he hadn't refuted. The evidence was in his first public statement after Kim announced she was going to do a livestream with me. Where he said anyone he had seen "sex worker or otherwise". He needs to show hard evidence the sex worker he "dated" was in fact really dating. The defense has to prove it had reason to believe that these allegations were true. Part of that defense is that Lloyd has a history of lying. Then, get him on the stand and show him lying again. Without any verifiable evidence, evidence that has never been given to the defense, my understanding of the Croatian laws around this is that he would lose his case. Defamation and libel require malice. Something he won't be able to prove.
All of his "evidence" is going to be his word against ours or evidence no one saw. So they had a reasonable reason to believe what they saw was true. That's why it's so difficult no matter what country you're in to win a case. Especially in a country like the USA where there is a jury. He would have 0% of winning any case he filed there. Solely because he'd be so unlikable to a jury and a proven liar.
This of course is ignoring the basic legal principle of jurisdiction. He has to prove the crime took place on Croatian soil. Or have some sort of extradition treaty for low-level crimes.
My theory now is he is betting on the Croatian court system being "glacially slow" knowing full well they will reject it. All the while he can let this blow over and recover. Just a tough time in the distant past. When the court made a decision he and his lawyers were caught off guard. Now they can re-file and cross their finger. Hoping it takes longer this time.
It will likely backfire again and the biggest loser will always be his pocketbook. The thing some might speculate he is likely trying to make look as small as possible for his ex-wife. Alimony and child support are coming if she is indeed following through with the divorce.