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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  @ Las Malvinas son Argentinas
  You're missing one key piece of information. There was an ex JW YouTuber (I'd need to find the screenshot) who was a former sex worker (IIRC). Just before the Andrew Gold video she revealed he had sent her text messages bragging about seeing sex worker(s) in Thailand. This is when his narrative changed. My guess is one of the points he'll try to claim that we the M7 lied about was his use of prostitutes in Thailand. He would try to claim a he-said/they-said defense that he actually was dating a prostitute. This kind of got lost in the shuffle and to me it's the smoking gun that he can't wriggle out of. It really blew up his entire defense.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  The idea that Lloyd is paid/controlled opposition is kind of laughable to me. If it's paid opposition then WT truly is stupid and so is Lloyd. It also would mean that Kim would have to be paid/controlled by the opposition since she blew the whistle on Lloyd which was all part of the plan right? That's where it all starts falling apart. WT and Lloyd are so skilled they hatched a years-long plan to get Kim to tell on Lloyd but also Lloyd and WT are so dumb they often stumble on the most basic of easy-to-contain issues.

  It makes way more sense that he has always been a manipulative narcissistic man baby who was good at shouting over people because his content made for better YouTube viewing to those who just exited. Now he just pulled a stunt that instead of dividing a small chunk, united the masses against him.

  By the way if anyone has any actual evidence please reach out to me as I have the contact info a legit journalist in the UK who would be able to verify it's actually real. Everytime I've made this offer it's always met with radio silence which makes me even more suspect.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  @ Las Malvinas son Argentinas

  Groups like Extinction Rebellion aren't exactly hurting for press coverage due to the nature of their protests. I think Evans thought he could bring Tibor, tell them he was a "filmmaker" and they'd be glad he was on-board... They want participants, not some guy with a camera who would be the first to yell "Press" the minute the police came to haul them away.

  
  

  Also, another thing is that typically these groups have a chain of command and someone giving approvals or denials to the press. My bet is he showed up and got told he had to email their comms director for approval, that they wouldn't let him film unless he did that first. He probably tried to wow them with his YouTube numbers hoping he could convince them but the didn't budge. If he had to admit that his filming was halted because he didn't do the most basic first step he looks extremely foolish.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  @ TonusOH

  I would love for him to decide to take on the environmental lobby over something so petty.
  

  Their reaction would probably be like Thanos in Avengers when he tells Scarlett Witch he has no idea who she even is lol.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Pr0ner I think he holds a special resentment toward you because you really had his number.

  I have my on little pet theory on this, why he is so angry with me. He was coming on to the scene just as I was leaving and I was a very prolific poster on here. I also never hid that I was working in the porn industry. This always gave me some small celebrity status in the ex-JW world (which I for sure beat over people's head...sorry). I always got the feeling that he respected me only because I was in that industry. Over the years Lloyd and I always had friendly interactions but never really spoke in depth so it was never verified.

  When he had his meltdown over the latest scandal I remember it all clicking for me since I've dealt with a lot of men like him, especially when I was working in porn. Which is that often they would assume I was some pervert like them or ok hearing about their bizarre sexual habits. When I would explain how that wasn't me or that I thought they were weirdos for telling me this stuff, the narcissistic ones would always lose their cool. Because they felt I was some liar or that they had been duped. This guy they respected only for this dumb superficial reason didn't respect them back. That's the worst thing that can happen to them.

  I think he thought of all people I would be cool with him and back him up. When I didn't and knew his game it was the ultimate betrayal. Narcissistic people have a hard enough time respecting anyone so anyone they actually respect who takes them to the woodshed is too much for them to handle. I have no real evidence this is why but it fits the MO of people in my past to a t.
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  What a strange way to frame not filming the environmentalists. Saying he couldn't cover them "fairly and honestly" seems to imply that he was catching them in lies. Perhaps he means they were making plans that couldn't be filmed but again why say the activists wouldn't allow you to cover it honestly? Wonder how their group feels about them being portrayed this way?
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  @LoveUniHateExams I know you're joking but he would never do such a thing cause he's a coward. At the end of his third video he doesn't have the guts to tell them the reality which is that there is no way he will actually convert. Once she asked that he knew the game was up but still tries to pretend he is someone he isn't. I also find it odd that his Faith Unchallenged and Mormon series revolves around women. Given his past Instagram history and his subtle misogyny I think it's becoming clear that this wasn't on accident.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Even if Kim came out and said she was never a solicitor/lawyer what Lloyd Evans doesn't get is that it wouldn't mean anything.His actions are/were worse.
  
  He's now seeing the writing on the wall and is trying to branch out into other areas. His problem is that everyone else did the work for him the last few years. He's having to learn as he goes into new areas. He doesn't have editing skills, he can't create stories/ideas on his own. Everything revolved around "reactions" and insights into the only thing he really knew which was Jehovah's Witnesses. Why would anyone go to Lloyd for his expertise on Mormons? Why would they go to him for his expertise on climate? About the only thing he might be able to parlay is doing interviews but again who will his audience actually be when its not about Jehovah's Witnesses?

  The fact that he keeps jumping from subject to subject shows how impatient and spoiled he's been. He's still the same dweeb elder/JW who needs someone else to do everything for him so he can take credit and move up. Well, it don't work that way in the real world unless you have a ton of income or real influence.
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  My guess was that it's his corporate lawyer who he has probably had for the last few years. They told him this would go nowhere but they could put it in the court system. Likely at a lower rate than they would normally charge. This might explain why they refuse to engage. Most attorneys would take any communications back to their client in hopes of a swifter resolution and communicate back to the defendant reaching out. In this case they probably agreed to simply file and put it to bed until it weaves its way to a court.
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  ForeverAlone... there is a reason he has filed in Croatia and will not file in the country of where the defendants are. It's simply too costly. He'd need a foreign legal team willing to take on a case that will likely fail. Any legal help we receive will have to come from a lawyer in Croatia who can shut this down. It's currently being looked into. So there may to be a need for a fundraiser. My guess is with a simple motion to squash due to lack of jurisdiction it gets thrown out pretty fast.