Posts by pr0ner

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Ah I had it a little bit wrong. I just remember when it happened seeing the tweets and thinking he was being a total Karen. As if the teachers are supposed to be Simon Cowel and totally trash a kid who isn't a good singer. What's even stranger is that same day he claimed they apologized to him and that it didn't have to do with her signing but the fact she was too young. So what exactly was the problem? First, it's that these teachers led on his daughter and they were totally incompetent. Then the next minute it was she is a good singer but simply too young. Ok sure.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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pr0ner

Toblerone5

It was def a tweet. Though he may have deleted it. This was a few months before lloydgate if I recall correctly. Again, if I remember correctly he implied that this school wanted his daughter to go to their school and they bullied her because of her singing. Someone asked for more details and then he explained that it was just a tryout and it seemed like they handled it like a normal school would. Some people pointed this out and he handled it in his totally normal calm way...

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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pr0ner

I think that’s precisely it. If you read his book he leans heavily into this narrative that all these women wanted him so badly

I was talking about this with my girlfriend who is fascinated by the JW dynamics. Lloyd and I are around the same age and both were born in. I was explaining to her how when I was growing up in every Hall there were three different kinds of kids. The ones who were genuinely good, the ones who were "bad" and the ones who wanted both.

That last group was always the worst. You could tell they just didn't like the bad kids because they desperately wanted the coolness that came with being bad but were way too cowardly to do anything openly. At least you could respect the ones who were genuinely good, they stuck to their principles, and rarely were they mean or vindictive.

I didn't read any of Lloyd's books or watch too many videos. I only saw little glimmers before. Like when he had a conniption fit because his daughter wasn't lauded as the next Whitney Houston for a music school tryout (someone should track that one down it was pretty hilarious). However, when he had his meltdown it was plain as day. He's a coward and has crippling self-esteem issues which he hides behind an overinflated ego. If actually confronted he melts down and runs away.

Him, trying to act all edgy and cool reminds me of this scene in the Dark Knight (90 seconds in) "I know the squealers when I see them". If you were a "bad" kid growing up as a JW you grew up with someone just like him who you probably had a severe dislike of.

https://youtu.be/votcOf5cYCM?t=90

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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pr0ner

Also Lloyd if you're reading this you're making a mistake jumping on the tiktok bandwagon. That is not the audiance you want finding out about your past.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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NonCoinCollector19 hours ago
is he so stupid as to think he was going to get a great influx of sympathy?
It makes me wonder if he believes most men are okay with his choices of entertainment.

I swear I've known so many guys who act just like Lloyd. He thought he was being edgy and cool by seeing sex workers. He thinks of himself as some mini rockstar. Which if that is part of your image from the onset can work. One of the biggest issues was that he portrayed himself as some wholesome family man on Twitter. Classic elder material.

When he told Kim and Producer Bob and they both reacted how they did he realized the truth of how people actually feel about these things. If you rewatch his livestream he is clinging hard to everyone who agrees with him and by the end you can see he looks relieved because he thinks he's weathered the storm.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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pr0ner

I can confirm that Lloyd has been dropped by the Athiest community he was in with. Evidently having the stink of going to Thailand and hanging out with sex workers isn't a great look there either. Also I'm sure he thinks he can wait it out likean actual celebrity could but the big difference is that celebrities actually make large sums of money for those that surround them. He really has almost no value to anyone on YouTube now.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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pr0ner

Notice she says "sex workers" implying he engaged with multiple ones. She also straight up says he lied about the "dating" aspect.

In order to file a lawsuit binding all of the defendants together, there would need to be something we all shared as a "lie". I could really only think of two points he could focus his lawsuit on. The claim he saw prostitutes in Thailand and the claim he engaged with a minor during his JW days. The M7 never stated the accusation of grooming as far as I'm aware, at least I know I never said that. In fact I even stated I didn't buy it, and shared the message by Dijana saying it wasn't true. So the only other point he could go against us on is the Thailand bit.

This really blows everything up, especially his shifting stories. This is the smoking gun he can't escape.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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@ Las Malvinas son Argentinas

No this was an American woman who was with Lloyd in Texas. Here is the screenshot I got when she posted to Andrew Gold's YouTube channel. I had the date confused but it's gotta be why Lloyd had to write everything he did around it. He knew that others knew the truth and had the receipts. He came out with that ridiculous "all were over the age of..." nonsense as soon as I announced I would be doing my video interview with Kim.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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@ Simon

Regarding concept of letting your opposition run wild I can understand that. One the conspiracies I could maybe understand is that WT could treat him with kid gloves if he had something damning against them like others have brought up... that being said I'm skeptical of that as well just because they did at one point try to shut him down. I think they just realized (unlike with him) it probably wasn't worth their money. I also wouldn't put it past WT to hire a firm to look into who they see as threats to their org and collect what dirt they can. I could totally buy into that they knew he was going to eventually self-destruct or be found out so watch and laugh. But that's me with the tin-foil hat on.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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pr0ner

@ Las Malvinas son Argentinas
You're missing one key piece of information. There was an ex JW YouTuber (I'd need to find the screenshot) who was a former sex worker (IIRC). Just before the Andrew Gold video she revealed he had sent her text messages bragging about seeing sex worker(s) in Thailand. This is when his narrative changed. My guess is one of the points he'll try to claim that we the M7 lied about was his use of prostitutes in Thailand. He would try to claim a he-said/they-said defense that he actually was dating a prostitute. This kind of got lost in the shuffle and to me it's the smoking gun that he can't wriggle out of. It really blew up his entire defense.