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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  @Chinapomo

  I don't think his looks carry much into it. There is a rule in marketing that it's always better to be first in the eyes of consumers than best. You actually see it a lot on YouTube. People who would never fit the "mold" of commercially viable looks wise have huge audiences because they were seen as "first". That's another reason this train wreck is so hilarious/sad to watch. All dude had to do was just the minimal and he would have staying power likely the rest of his life and probably an ok residual from ad revenue. But nope.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  @Simon

  What is so dumb and this is coming from someone whose real life job is to create content for a global company...what he makes requires little skills. Honestly, he doesn't even have to edit much if he doesn't want to. All Tibor adds is a nice filter on top. But do ex-jws really care that much about how well something is edited? Especially when 99% of the content is interview/podcast style? Like really? This dude is so lazy, he'd rather beg out here like a homeless person than learn the most minimal of editing skills.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I love the people who come in here trying to be like, “you gossip like jws”. No we gossip like people in the real world. It’s just that many were brainwashed into thinking that all gossip is bad and isn’t normal. This thread would be 20,000 pages long across multiple forums if Lloyd was remotely famous with people in the “world”. It would be water cooler talk at the office with people laughing. If anything Lloyd is lucky it only impacted the ex-JW community.

  By the way one easy fix is just to avoid this thread if you feel this strongly about it.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Hmm interesting question Kim. I think at the end of the day he wasn’t really a activist or a YouTuber he was an opportunist. Capitol “O”. He can make a claim he has done some activism, but seems to only do it if he can promote himself at the same time. He can make a claim he is a “YouTuber” but most entertaining channels expand their content into other areas. Lloyd can only discuss two topics. Ex jw technicalities and himself. That’s it. So in both examples he’s not good at being and activist or YouTuber. He only has the thinnest resume possible to justify his claim to calling himself either one of them. What he is best at is promoting himself. He is also lucky that he had ambition and good timing. It’s more important to be first in peoples eyes than best. That’s all he needed.

  But competition always comes for people. Now there are activists that get loads more views and do way more work than Lloyd. Now there are YouTubers who have more creative ideas, are experts in other fields, and get more views than Lloyd. So now he’s being exposed as a on again off again activist. A lazy content creator and a self promoter.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Wow awesome work Derek and Kim! One thing that may be possible is to use a service like Fiverr for the translations. I used to use it for commercial translations all the time. Also I’m not sure translations will cost that much. Especially in Croatia. My girlfriend recently had to get some translation work done by a pro and it was around $20 per page for documents going to immigration. For something non official it should be a lot cheaper
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I would be shocked if he ever debated anyone in the future and certainly wouldn't do it if it isn't his channel. Why? Because they will always bring up "the scandal". It's pretty hilarious to see him go from zero to a thousand for nothing. This dude is forever stuck in a pattern lol.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I also laughed at that Simon...like it's Saturday for maximum 2 hours. Why in the world couldn't he clear that?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Yea, I'll see what I can find out. I'm guessing "conviction" is probably a loose translation. Because if the "conviction" was in Lloyd's favor he would be shouting it as loud as he could from the rooftops. My understanding was on the August 29th bit it was tossed because of lack of standing (given that no one was a Croatian citizen) but maybe Kim could shed more light there. Thus, they resubmitted. I don't believe there was any mention of a "letter" though with that one.
  
  I'm wondering if this time the case was thrown out with "prejudice". This might explain the need for a letter and Lloyd's sulky attitude. If has to admit that the court will refuse any future hearings of the case it makes him look really really really stupid. Even more stupid than if it was just thrown out.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  @LMSA, the person checking at the courthouse for the records also mentioned using upwork. This is really clever and something I didn't think of. We might be able to find a paralegal on upwork who might legally have access to this information who could get it quickly for a nominal fee.
  
  Upwork is a site where you can hire freelancers for just about anything.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  He wants to be an "entertainer", but he knows that his bread and butter is always going to be on the religious side. He tried standup comedy it didn't go well. He tried doing open mic nights for music, but it didn't go well. He wants to chase the high of his previous success without any of the work. It took him years to get the following he did and with music or standup, it would also take years. Years he is too lazy to spend. Much easier to get some headshots to give him an ego boost and slightly pivot.

  By the way, someone on the reddit thread said they will do some digging for us to find out if it is public record at the courthouse itself. Stay tuned!