Posts by cantleave

That still does not answer the question. Using the term "Father" is fine, but within the family setting the term "Father" or "Dad" is used because everyone understands their relationship with one another. The father figure acknowledges their paternal reponsibilities to the children and accepts the designation. Outside the family he is not refered to as father or dad he is referred to by a specific name. If we use the term father it pre supposes that God has acknowledged his responsibility toward us and we have accepted his fatherly oversight. I don't have a problem with using father with reference to God but I still think that it doesn't fufill the requirement of separting a Christian god from any other deity.

If there was no need to use the name at all why include it in the Bible anywhere? We are arguing about pronunciation and appropriate use of the name but why is it there? The WT argues that we dont know the correct pronounciation of Jesus name, and as some feel that he is of the same status as god, why do we use his name?

Surely Jesus would have used his father's name, even if he were only reading it from Hebrew texts, he surely would have known how to pronounce the name even if his peers did not.

There is no Biblical instruction not to speak the name only not to take it in Vain.

Are you indicating that there is a difference between the NT god and the OT god. If so please explain, I have always been taught that Jesus worshipped the same god as the Jews.

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Evidence In Favor Of Bloodless Surgery Mounts

by Bangalore in

evidence in favor of bloodless surgery mounts.. .

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/281102.

bangalore.

cantleave

It is always going to be preferrable to use the surgical methodologies which are least invasive, and reduce blood loss. These techniques have been developed over a number of decades by a number of pioneering surgeons, sometimes in response to patient request (including witnesses) but also due to the increasing cost of blood collection, storage and processing. JW's will benefit from these practices and procedures but they were not, as some claim, the reason why they were developed and exist.

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How Much of an Impact is Being Made by Young JW' s Leaving the Cult ?

by flipper in

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we have read threads where statistics show that 2 out of every 3 people raised as jehovah's witnesses eventually leave once they get in their 20's to 30's and out on their own.

my children and my nieces and nephews are between the ages of 21 to 35 .

out of those 8 people - 4 of them have completely stopped attending meetings .

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Flipper I would love to say that the attrition rate in our circuit is increasing but in reality it is not. I see a lot of youngsters going through a wobbly period in their mid to late teens but staying in. The attrition rate of kid brought up in the cult has always been around 50% and still is. What I have noticed is less 16 - 30 year olds are pioneering. Most people who have stopped attending seem to be 30 - 45 years in age. The proceding statements are not statistics but my observations.

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The guy that claimed he was going to bring down the WTBTS

by Scarred for life in

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i haven't been on the board for several weeks until yesterday.

there was a guy that was a regular poster that was starting some kind of email campaign that he claimed was going to bring down the wtbts.

i can't remember his name.

cantleave

Another corporation will rise to "service" that market.

Hmmmm Anyone want to join my new religion?

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What does a congregations 'record' say about it?

by babygirl30 in

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the cong i belonged to was very large...it was the 'popular' hall!

i say that because it was a new building (double-khall), a lot of families went to this hall whether they were in the territory or not - if their relation went there or their 'friends' were in this cong - they came too!

lots of young couples...they drank together, they partied together, they go out clubbing together, and they all had their kids together.

cantleave

The CO would be asking the Elders if any of them were hiding a secret sin because the the spirit's operation is being hindered - we had a similar situation a few years back and that was exactly the the question asked of us.

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Anyone seen Gran Torino?

by John Doe in

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the new clint eastwood movie.

i watched it last night, and thought it was pretty good..

cantleave

Clint Eastwood back to being on great form.

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How Many JWs Stay In & Are Not "True Believers"?

by minimus in

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how many are simply there because they don't care about religion and "where would they go"?.

how many have sold their souls just to remain in "friendships" and "family"?.

i think there are tons of jehovah's witnesses in name only.. .

cantleave

I think the majority will have some doubt's. but will move them to one side and wait for Jehovah to clarify things. That was my approach.

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the wt 1989

by Adrianoblue in

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i just read a quote from our poster "albert einstein".

he wrote the wt from 1989 stated that armageddon will occur within the 20th centurie.. ist that information correct????.

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Is it disrespectful to call GOD by his name JEHOVAH?

by foolsparadise in

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i have been thinking about this alot recently.

calling our god the creator by his first name jehovah takes alot of nerve.

my 10 year oll son doesnt walk around calling me by my first name.

cantleave

Did Jesus not tell us in Matthew 6 to let gods name be sanctified? He also said that he had made his Father's name known. If the name was never to be pronounced why would he make these statements? In addition the 10 commandments stated that the Israelittes should not take Gods name in vain so it wasn't the pronunciation of the name but the context that was important.

In the world of the old testament the Gods all had names. Molech, Dagon etc. To refer to a being just as God would be meaningless in that context. Therefore it would be appropriate for the almighty God to have a name that would distinguish him from others.

I feel that it is important how we use God's name and treat it with a degree of respect. Using his name as punctuation in prayers is not treating it with reverence. But stating it at the beginning of a prayer helps to direct the prayer to the specific deity even if all the other gods are false gods. Whether using the name Jehovah's Witnesses is correct use of the name I don't know.

In the Bible Jehovah seemed to indicate a willingness to be close to individuals, he also uses his name on numerous occasions to prefix statements in the old testament record. It was men who said it was too sacred to utter.

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