so funny, being at work, I have to control myself not to burst out in laughter....
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An Honest Encounter At The Door!
by Bangalore inyour religion is false.. householder: false?
you see, the "truth" of our religion is self-evident in our beliefs.
witness: well, the bible does say that.
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16 The elders shepherd the flock “eagerly.”
Their eagerness is evident in their self sacrificing
attitude in helping the flock. However, that does
not mean that they force the flock to serve
Jehovah; nor do loving elders
encourage others to serve God out of a
competitive spirit. (Gal. 5:26) Elders appreciate
that each sheep is unique. They are eager
to help their brothers to serve Jehovah
happily.
my comment:
quite an interesting even surprising statement. We all know, elders always look at the numbers of the publisher cards. They usually do not care if the publisher is happy, because frankly, they are not happy in doing bring door to door work...
"We must get the job done" attitude prevails.
To me, this paragraph was just another example of the typical double-talk.
I`d like to see the expression in the face of an elder, when he encourages a young single brother, who just reposrt 3 hours a month, and the brother replies: "Its only a few hours, but I serve Jehovah happily" .
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-17-2011 WT Study (MOST IMPORTANT PERSON)
by blondie incomments.
comments.
so satan went out away from the person of jehovah.
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man, how was Eve supposed to answer then ?
"Yes, I am not allowed to eat from it, but as for Adam, ask him..."
"I don`t really know, short memory, sorry, have to clean the house and cook for my hubby now, bye"
"Why do you use plural ? I am alone here, please rephrase your question"
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What imaginary places would you visit if you could?
by rebel8 inrisa [star trek].
several of the places in the old james bond movies.
willie wonka factory.
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Drama DC 2011
by inbetween inprelude:.
still being in, i had to attend the 3 day dc this year.
well, actually, it was not soooo bad.
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Billy, thanks for the link, didn't see the post.
Saturday drama, well was actually not soooo bad, but the program had some "valuable" lessons, how to deal with apostates. I recommend that for all of you...
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Drama DC 2011
by inbetween inprelude:.
still being in, i had to attend the 3 day dc this year.
well, actually, it was not soooo bad.
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Prelude:
Still being in, I had to attend the 3 day DC this year. Well, actually, it was not soooo bad. Some parts were quite interesting, like the explanation of the covenants, the illustrations and Jesus personality. Of course, here and there was the obvious spin of the WTS.
Sunday afternoon finally came, and I thought by mayself, ok, only the drama, what can go wrong with a biblical drama...well, I was really naiv...here my short summary:
Theme:
It was about Joseph, being sold by his brothers to Egypt....actually, no matter if the story is real or a myth, it is a good story, and anyone can draw something valuable from it. There would not be really a need to alter it, or even to add a modern application
Well, the WTS, writting committee or whoever writes the Dramas thought different.
After the opnening scene, when Joesph was ridiculed by his brothers, a modern scene was played. A young brother was apparently just filling in an application for aux.pio. was mocked by other witnesses (obviuosly representing the mean brothers of Joseph). They even wanted to invite him to a premiere of a Vampire film (twilight bashing again...)
(The message: If you do not consider aux.pio. or support others doing it, and to top it of, you go to Twilight movies, you are spiritully weak, almost opposers, enemies of Gods people, treacherous brothers....)
Well, the young brother stood his ground. scene switches to old times again, Joseph being already in Egypt, and Potiphars wife tries to seduce him etc...
Modern switch: At school the young brother was approached by an obvious bad girl. She did not succeed in seducing him, so she posted a slanderous story on her webpage about having sex with him on a particular evening.
While with different scenes the old story with Joseph goes on, he being accused falsely, thrown into prison, being brought before Pharao etc..the modern application was always shown also, but then it became really weird, even shocking !!
The young brother receiced the typical visit of two elders, because someone informed them about the story the girl posted on her webside. So far so good, but how they proceeded there, was so shocking, I think people around me could hear my jaw drop....
The elders, instead of merely asking him, wether there is something true on this story, they went not one but many steps further. After he denied any contact with this girl, they asked him for an alibi on that particular evening, when the intercourse according to the story should have happened ! And after he told, were he was, they said, they will check it out and come back to him.....
The elders acted like Police, not like loving sheperds, who are first and foremost supposed to know their flock and to believe their brothers !!!
Well the story ends, after showing how Joseph became highly privileged in Egypt, being second after Pharao, as the counterpart, the young brother was invited to say the concluding prayer at a field service meeting....wtf ?????
It really left an awful aftertaste, in my opinion, the worst drama I can remember at an assembly. Even last years speculating story of the 1st century Christians was better...
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Movies that resonate with you as an ex-JW or awake JW
by RayPublisher inthe matrix - "do you want the blue pill or the red pill?
", "all i offer you is the truth", "ignorance is bliss", "the matrix is all around us".
shutter island - creepy, is it real or isn't it, it turns out the whole thing is a dream.
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Do you believe in an annointed class?
by irondork inregarless of their identity - in fact, if they are really "discreet" their identity should probably remain unknown - do you believe the bible speaks of a spirit annointed class of folks, a limited number of humans that have been called to heaven to serve with jesus?.
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how would would explain this:
Revelation 5:9, world wide english:
#9And the four living beings and the leaders sang a new song. The new song was: `You are able to take the book and to open its locks, because you were killed. You have set the people free and bought them for God with the cost of your blood. They are from every tribe, language, nation, and country.
10 You have made them into kings and priests for our God. They will rule on the earth.'
Does this scripture indicate at least two classes ? One class, made up of humans, who will rule, and others who will be subjects ?
Interestingly, the NWT says, ruling over the earth, what does the Greek word really indicate ?
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A good comment at the KH about Abigail
by Quarterback intoday's wt was interesting.
the lesson spoke first about the role of husbands, and then wives.
then it tied in some bible examples in which abigail was mentioned.
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anbody noticed the twist in Paragraph 3 ( I think) about 1. Timothy 5:8 ?
It was not clearly stated, but it was insinuated, that a husbands providing for the family would include spiritual provisions. Most understood it that way and also comments were given, that material provsions are not enough.
So the twist was, that a husband, who does not take lead in spiritual matters (eg family worship evening, field service, meetings etc) would also be worse than an unbeleiver.
BUt this was not, what the scripture is about !! The context shows, it was only refeering to material provisions. Btw, I comented to make this clear, hoping somebody not half asleep got it.....
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How many will Jehovah KILL at armageddon?
by jean-luc picard inwell that depends on the world population.. .
if he had done it it 1914, he would only have killed 2 billion.. if he had done it in 1960, then he would have killed 3 billion.. if he had done it in 1975 ( so now we know why he didn't) he would only have had 4 billion to kill.. so is the question of when armaggedon will come, related to how many he wants to kill?.
interestingly this site ( but dont bother reading it all, its......well you'll see).
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the chart does not depict the growth right, the distance between 1850 and 2000 (150 years) is almost equal to the distance from 1 to 1850. The curve should be much stepper...
regarding the population at the flood, 3 billion ? How could he (and his family) preahc to all and besides that built the arch ?
No wonder God killed them all, Noah did not have to to make return visits or conduct home bible studies....