My Son started piercing himself after he left the jw's. 4 on his lip, 3 in his nose and his ears are HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGe. I think a 1.5. Its hard to look at. I love him and wish he wouldn't do this to himself. I quit saying anything about it. It seems like everytime his dad mentions it, the boy runs out and puts in another one.
littlebird
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Stretching Pierced Ear Holes
by White Dove ini saw three of my friends with extra thick earrings, like the spiral kind that get bigger as they go around, and have since wanted to do my own.
i got 10g tiny but thicker hoops and have just shoved them through enough to put the little doughnut shaped back on.
ouch.
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Were You Always Feeling Guilty As A Witness?
by minimus ini think the religion works on guilt.
everyone is made to feel they're not good enough some how or perhaps they practice a "secret sin" and it gnaws at them.
so they decide to pioneer or "do more", recognizing they can never really make up for whatever shortcomings they have.. were you a guilt ridden jw?
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littlebird
Yes, I felt guilty about everything. Especially, "conscience" matters, because really, nothing is up to your conscience because there is always someone there to tell you how spiritually weak you are if you do something that is supposedly up to your conscience. It got so bad that I was diagnosed as having "borderline personality disorder". A symptom of this is the inability to see things in a "gray area" , all choices are black or white.
Funny, I don't seem to have it anymore since I left the jws.
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Our "Bible Study" with the Jehovah's Witnesses
by garyneal inmy wife and i had a "bible study" with an elder and his wife yesterday (9-11-09) and the topic was marraige.
the book we covered was "keeping yourself in god's love.
" this particular "bible study" was based primarily on the topic we covered in the book and, of course, there was a lot of "hop scotching" of the bible.
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littlebird
If my wife happens to be attending a church with me, she is quick to point out their errors from scripture and exhalt the Kingdom Halls as "the closest thing to the truth" that she has experienced. (Yet of course, she is clearly blind to errors I see in the Watchtower theology.)
What is nice though, about most churches, is that you can disagree with the pastor explanation of scripture and not be disfellowshipped or cut off from the congregation for having a different viewpoint. You can't say that for the watchtower.
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FlyingHighNow Needs Our Love & Support
by snowbird inher son, jesse, is in serious condition.. my son is in surgery and may lose his hand and arm.. jesse got an infection in a cut on his finger.
his finger and hand swelled to the size of an arm .. .
they have to do surgery on his hand and arm.
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littlebird
I'm sending you a virtual hug and Im praying for you and your son.
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Does everyone else get this reaction from their JW family when discussing objections to the religion?
by jambon1 inwhen pointing out my objections to the jw religion with my wife, i have noticed a worrying trend which even after 3 or 4 years shows no sign of relenting.. after speaking calmly for an hour or so and logically pointing out my objections, my wife starts to put forward outrageous assertations about my points.
for instance, if i am refering to the fact that disfellowshipping is a form of extreem punishment & i mention the terrible effects that being d/f'd can have on people, she will eventually retort with something like "so what you are saying is that we should tolerate paedophiles, rapists & thieves in the organisation then?".
of course, i've never at any point said anything of the sort.. or if i have been overly critical of the amount of control the society wants over peoples lives, she would reply "so what you are saying is that we should all just go out & do what we want, get drunk & live an immoral life?
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I get the same type of reactions from my husband, He usually interupts before I get a complete sentence out, though. He will immediately turn my objections into being "persecuted" for his beliefs. I never do that , he can believe whatever he chooses.
Its been a struggle, but Im trying to remember that he is programmed to be defensive. So Im learning that when he brings up why I left, I just try be kind explaining just 1 point at a time. You have to remember that in their minds, we are going to die in armegedon if we don't come back and they are under constant pressure to try to win us back.
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Do mixed marriages work? What about kids?
by greenie ini'm new and have posted something along these lines recently on another thread, but i'm wondering, do marriages between non-jws and jws work?
by "work" i mean can they be loving and happy?
and what about kids?
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littlebird
Oops, posted at same time, lol
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where do you draw the line ?
by lancelink inlast night i was talking to my son (24 years old) and he was telling me about his life growing up as a jw, .
very frustrating for him, he couldn't have friends from school over, no joining clubs, sports, etc - etc.. but a very interesting point was made, and i never thought about it and it has been rolling around all day.
as morphius said.
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littlebird
Oh darn, I was going to tan tonight!
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Do mixed marriages work? What about kids?
by greenie ini'm new and have posted something along these lines recently on another thread, but i'm wondering, do marriages between non-jws and jws work?
by "work" i mean can they be loving and happy?
and what about kids?
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littlebird
The major improvement I'm seeing right now is that he hasnt been preaching at me lately. We have been married 24 yrs, so there is alot invested in our relationship. We are having to discover new things incommon together, set new goals for the future.
I would take OTWO's advice and look at some websites so you will know about what you maybe getting into. I would add the site 4jehovah.org. It is excellent for comparing the differences in beliefs between christianity and the jehovah's witnesses. (if this link works) it deals specifically with your question.
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where do you draw the line ?
by lancelink inlast night i was talking to my son (24 years old) and he was telling me about his life growing up as a jw, .
very frustrating for him, he couldn't have friends from school over, no joining clubs, sports, etc - etc.. but a very interesting point was made, and i never thought about it and it has been rolling around all day.
as morphius said.
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littlebird
Well, you could follow the WT's advice:
Awake! of January 8, 2000. In the article entitled, “A Balanced View of Popular Customs,” they noted on pages 26-27, “Customs have been profoundly influenced by religion. Many, in fact, arose from old superstitions and non-Biblical religious ideas… But what about customs that may once have been linked to questionable practices …Does this mean that Christians are forbidden to observe such customs? …Although there may be reason to examine the origin of a particular custom, in some cases it is more important to consider what the custom means to people at the time and in the place where one now lives.”
Not, that they would consider practicing this themselves, but thats the line I would draw.
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Do mixed marriages work? What about kids?
by greenie ini'm new and have posted something along these lines recently on another thread, but i'm wondering, do marriages between non-jws and jws work?
by "work" i mean can they be loving and happy?
and what about kids?
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littlebird
Welcome Greenie,
I was not raised a jw. I got married as a teen to an older guy and we became Jws shortly after. I left it 22 yrs later. He wasn't very "active" until both of our children and myself left. Now he's very active. There are many times I don't think we'll make it, but Im still in the trying phase. I am starting to see improvement. I've been out for 1.5 years.
Most of our fights come from him feeling like he must preach to me, constantly and I just dont want to hear it. If you are of another belief system, he is trained to shut you off in conversation and to overcome your objections. We actually get along great, when we can leave religion out of the picture. We have to learn to agree to disagree. If I want to celebrate holidays, I have to do it outside the home, because it bothers him. I'm willing to negotiate on those things.
Bottom line, you will have to set boundaries. Before you marry him you must decide what religious beliefs do you want for your child? What if your child needs a life saving blood transfusion, Jw's will refuse it, what will you do? Will you celebrate holidays?
Just things to think about. I wish you well.