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  Saddening and Inspiring...

  by IronHill in

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  2. friends

  ok, so we received our new copy of crisis of conscience (since my previous copy was lent out and never returned) and me and the wifey have been reading it together for the past couple nights.

  i have read the book before, and know the shock felt when you read about certain things in the organization.

  she admits to having lingering thoughts and feelings of guilt for leaving perhaps the only true religion.

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  mrsjones - I know exactly what you mean!

  Lady Lee - Thanks for your words. I experienced those feelings alone (my family thought I was crazy), so I definitely understand where she's at, and am here for her.
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  How Pleasant to See Brothers ...

  by snowbird in

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  pushing baby carriages, changing nappies, and wiping drool.*.

  wonderful sight!

  my brothers.

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  On the flip side of that (not that I disagree, of course) I have a wonderful father (despite the fact that he is a JW and rarely speak to me now), who took care of us, and played with us, and disciplined us when we needed it.

  Till this day, even in the position i'm in, I know I can count on his help if I needed it desperately. I try to emulate him as much as I can with my own daughters. I had a good father, and want to be just like him for my girls.
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  Saddening and Inspiring...

  by IronHill in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, so we received our new copy of crisis of conscience (since my previous copy was lent out and never returned) and me and the wifey have been reading it together for the past couple nights.

  i have read the book before, and know the shock felt when you read about certain things in the organization.

  she admits to having lingering thoughts and feelings of guilt for leaving perhaps the only true religion.

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  no more kool aid - That's exactly what I said to her last night. It's the first step of recovery!

  snowbird and Quandry - I too remember the sadness...and even though I no longer feel it for myself, I am still sad for those in my family who are still in.
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  Saddening and Inspiring...

  by IronHill in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, so we received our new copy of crisis of conscience (since my previous copy was lent out and never returned) and me and the wifey have been reading it together for the past couple nights.

  i have read the book before, and know the shock felt when you read about certain things in the organization.

  she admits to having lingering thoughts and feelings of guilt for leaving perhaps the only true religion.

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  IronHill

  Ok, so we received our new copy of Crisis of Conscience (since my previous copy was lent out and never returned) and me and the wifey have been reading it together for the past couple nights. I have read the book before, and know the shock felt when you read about certain things in the organization. My wife hadn't read it, and was curious, mostly because everyone here was saying it was an important book to read.

  Even though we both decided to disassociate 3 months ago, my reasons were more because I know the witnesses dont have the truth, while hers were more because she felt restrained by the religion. She admits to having lingering thoughts and feelings of guilt for leaving perhaps the only true religion. Last night I was witness to something I myself experienced, but have never observed in anyone else. See when I read CoC I remember the shock, disbelief, anger and loneliness that came from learning the truth about the "truth". I have since moved on and accepted and have been happier no longer feeling captive to that religion. My wife was not there yet. After we finished a chapter last night, she asked me to stop, and sat pensative for a minute. She then went through a roll of emotions, anger, sadness, shock and realization. Her anxiety went out of control, she felt a wave of fear, and loneliness and ultimately cried. All I could do was hold her and let her cry, assuring her that this was the scary part of letting go but that things would eventually get better. This was the difficult part, but after this it will all melt away. The fear, the guilt, the feelings of this organization being directed by God.

  I remember going through those emotions alone, angry and upset, crying by myself, feeling betrayed. I feel for her, because I understand what she's going through, but at the same I'm glad I'm here to help her through it, and to make sure she's ok.

  It was an emotional evening for us, and I just wanted to share.
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  Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..

  by mentallyfree31 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who were your past circuit overseers?

  i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).

  ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).

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  My districts were always in PA, NJ, DE - USA, and I attended the spanish congregation, but here are a few I remember.

  David Miner - Pretty cool with our family, sold my dad his laptop.

  Antonio Cavazos - Instructor when I went to Pioneer school, and the most direct CO i ever met. Not a bad guy though.

  Archiebald - I just remember his bowties.

  Rogers - I actually liked him. Very nice, very calm...always gave a good word.

  Negron - The last CO before I disassociated myself.
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  First "Apostate" Thing I've Done

  by scotinsw in

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  just been on facebook and saw a friend of a "friend" had a truth box which is anonymous.

  i sent a little message to them!.

  probably will get ignored and they will think that the evil apostates are out to get them but still, it made me feel like i'm getting over the whole witless thing.. so.....what was the first "apostate" thing you ever did?.

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  Googled Jehovah's Witnesses and spent the day nervously reading all of the "evil" apostate websites I found.
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  Conditional love

  by wannabefree in

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  you can expect it from the congregation, but from a spouse?

  there is just something very wrong with that.. .

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  I too have felt it from my family, including my parents...it is extremely difficult to bear.
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  Are you an active Jw or an ex-jw?

  by XPeterX in

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  2. bible

  active unbaptised publisher here.you?

  (though i already know the answer for some people).

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  I was baptized at the age of 11 in 1992, became inactive in 2007, disassociated March 2010.
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  How Long Did It Actually Take You To Leave The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  i started reading "apostate" books when i was a teen at the library.

  it was more curiousity than anything else.

  at home, i used to read all the old publications and i'd notice how beliefs had changed.. with ray franz's books that i read clandestinely, i started to realize the truth about "the truth".

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  It took me seven years of doubting and questioning, before finally leaving it all behind.
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  What's Next For The Watchtower Organization?

  by minimus in

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  any predictions?.

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  IronHill

  I have this hope that something big would make the majority of the people realize they are in a man-made organization, and thus create a mass exodus.

  But in all likely hood they continue chugging for years to come...