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  JW saved by Bovine Blood Product

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
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  not sure if this has be posted before, i apologise if it has... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1383586/cows-blood-saves-life-crash-victim-world-procedure.html.

  doctors have saved the life of a woman car crash victim with the first ever use of cows blood.. tamara coakley, 33, rejected a life-saving conventional blood transfusion because of her jehovahs witness faith despite being close to death.. but in a worlds first procedure, a synthetic blood substitute made from cow plasma was used to revive the patient just as her heart was failing through severe blood loss.. the success of the procedure could help combat the worldwide blood supply shortage.. mrs coakleys religion permits the use of blood substitutes and doctors in melbourne, australia, flew in ten unites of the haemoglobin- based experimental plasma called hboc-2-1 from the united states where it is being developed by the military.. the cows blood product was painstakingly administered over two days to mrs coakley, who had been in a medically-induced coma following a horrific car collision last october.. after a few close calls, including a bout of pneumonia, the patients haemoglobin levels more than doubled.. mrs coakley was overwhelmed by the lengths doctors went to save her life and respect her personal choices.. more...ultimate health cocktail: scientists devise blend of 13 fruit juices so good for you it could lower heart disease risk .

  im glad something positive could come out of it.

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  Maybe it was just water from the inside of a cow, since plasma is 90% water, right? Eh? Eh?

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  You Won't be Resurrected.

  by smmcroberts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but if you die prior to armageddon you won't be resurrected.

  please read my latest blog article to find out why this is so according to the watchtower beliefs.. http://smmcroberts.net/blog/you-wont-be-resurrected/.

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  Since I won't be resurrected, you know what that means. You don't? It means I need to use more words that start with 'f' and end with 'k'.

  Fork.

  Freak.

  Flick.

  Flack.

  Flock.

  And so on.

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  jw star having life difficulties

  by carla in

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  2. current

  another jw "star".

  she may truly have mental illness problems but being part of this damaging cult surely cannot help her.. .

  http://tv.yahoo.com/news/%e2%80%98saved-by-the-bell%e2%80%99-star-lark-voorhies-has-bipolar-disorder--according-to-her-mother.html.

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  My gosh...I grew up watching 'Saved by the Bell' and just adored her! What the heck happened? That's just very tragic, and I know she was still looking really great not that long ago. There's something not being revealed here; she looks more like 48 or 58 than 38. It does seem like she needs some serious help from that article. I hope she gets it.

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  classic oompa - "food tastes the same"

  by BroMac in

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  i was looking at some older threads from oompa i didnt have to look to long before i came across this cracker of an op http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/144083/1/hindered-prayers-says-my-wife-so-i-stopped.

  ps could someone make it clickable please.

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  That's a hilarious story. Ah, I think it's nice that we can look back and laugh, even though it's kinda crazy at the same time that any of this stuff happens to anybody. I always appreciate the humor we all need in order to get through this kind of stuff. Exiting the cult, dealing with JW family life, all of it. Sometimes you do have to laugh. I'm glad you pointed this one out, BroMac.

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  How does one go about dating after leaving the WT?

  by Left in the Cold in

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  I would start with carbon dating. Then I'd do a Lord of the Rings marathon, followed by a Star Wars on Blu-ray marathon, then a Matrix marathon, an X-Men marathon, a Spider-Man marathon, and wrap it all up with a Superman marathon and a Batman marathon. By that time, you'll come to appreciate that being single enables you to do stuff like that without being interrupted. When you realize just how sweet that is, you'll never want to date again.

  Seriously though, sounds like some pretty good suggestions here. I wouldn't recommend dating sites; I'd say start with a group that has interests you share and just try meeting people. I think building into a romance is probably better than meeting someone who already has that as their sole agenda. But then, I didn't know what the heck I was doing when I dated, so...there really is no point in me commenting further...

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  Leaving the Watchtower and your mental health

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've seen that many in the organization have an unhealthy view of medical professionals, especially as it relates to psychiatry/psychology.

  i thought this was an appropriate topic considering what happened with oompa.

  how do you feel about your mental health now that you left?

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  I sought out therapy long before I left the JWs. I just didn't discuss it with most people. Either way, my therapist never criticized my religious beliefs at all and never suggested anything anti-God or what have you. As I started becoming more aware of my deepest feelings, the process of waking up ended up growing out of that branch, I suppose.

  I tried talking to elders and they proved entirely useless and if anything made me feel worse. I was more than glad to talk to a neutral party about my problems and feelings; I felt I could do so without being criticized or threatened for saying something that didn't fit in with the JW system. It was one of the best choices I ever made. I'd tried some counseling back in college and really liked it then, too, just never pursued it until years later.

  I'd still be doing therapy if I had the money for it.

  When I was on the inside, I had no reason to fear them. I always felt the Society wanted us to be afraid of everything that wasn't a Watchtower. I knew that couldn't be reasonable, that these folks were professionals and trained to help people. Either way, there was nothing in the Bible that said I couldn't. I figured it was one of things that was frowned upon maybe, like college, but...it didn't bother my conscience at all.

  I'd recommend it for everyone, but to be selective about it. You can usually feel it if this is the right person for you to share your emotions and personal growth with.

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  Showed Spouse A Quote In the Bound Volume

  by turtleturtle in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as part of family worship last night, i pulled out the bound volumes i have been harvesting from different sources lately and showed my spouse the following quote:.

  awake!1969 may 22 p.15 .

  "if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

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  If you are 'God's sole channel of communication with mankind', you don't need to give it the old college try. You just speak, and it's true, and that's it. Truth isn't a baseball pitch that you take a swing at and sometimes you hit it, sometimes you don't. I doubt you'll find any Bible prophets trying to qualify their proclamations with legal-ese. But there's nothing vague about this statement. It's even attributed to Bible prophecy, same as saying it's God's own words. But they've been trained not to think in terms of 'true' and 'false' when it comes to their own beliefs. It's always 'prior understanding', 'past truths', etc. They can't look it in the eye or else it's a house of cards. Look at it from just the right angle, and for them, it's a solidly built house.

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  I was HAPPY as a JW, how did I get here?

  by MC RubberMallet in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some have figured out, but i am a poster that previously used another name.

  but even then i did not give many details about myself.

  i barely cracked 100 posts.. but i have never done a thread to explain why i am here.

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  It didn't matter what I read.....I always looked for a stupid reason to "prove" Jehovah's justice. And if I couldn't do that.....then I simply told myself that the reason I couldn't see his justice in a particular situation is because I have foolish, fleshly thinking.......therefore I must not understand it.

  Sounds like you fit the description of, as I called it, "good elder material". I always felt people should have a separate moral code from 'the group', no matter how 'true' and 'righteous' the group seemed. I'd heard about Jim Jones from my mom, and it occurred to me that in any group, some nut could get control and try to get everyone to do something stupid or dangerous. I knew I had to watch for that day, and be ready to get out of there if it came. Little did I know it was already there...

  But it's a synthetic happiness. The person whose background left no hope at all didn't need a cult to better him or herself. They just needed to see that there was hope if they behaved differently than the bad examples around them. There are a number of ways that can be accomplished, so the Society does not deserve credit for what individual/group effort ultimately accomplished.

  Even if you are really happy, you're still being lied to. It's morally wrong to do that to people no matter what the end may be. And it doesn't seem that the Society's ends are any better than their means; after all, their end game scenario ends with them RULING THE WORLD. Thanks, but I'd take horrible, crushing sadness over that any day of the frakkin' week.

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  Teenage son's last WT comment. Major sphincter puckering on my part.

  by Open mind in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i thought maybe some of us might enjoy something light-hearted to start the week off.

  at dinner last night my teenage son reminded me of the last kh meeting he attended with me about a year ago.

  he is a big fan of christopher hitchins and self-identifies as an atheist.

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  That's hilarious. I think I would have lowered or raised an eyebrow if I was still in and heard that one.

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  I was HAPPY as a JW, how did I get here?

  by MC RubberMallet in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some have figured out, but i am a poster that previously used another name.

  but even then i did not give many details about myself.

  i barely cracked 100 posts.. but i have never done a thread to explain why i am here.

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  Seriously. I just don't see how you could be happy unless you just weren't reading the literature. Even when I believed it there were aspects of our belief system that were disturbing to me. But then I never understood the zealot types anyway. It seemed like they were denying themselves, and not in the good way, but losing part of their humanity, part of...who they were as people. I always figured there should be more to us than what we believe. Recreation should be something other than putting on a plaid shirt and khakis and cleaning the Kingdom Hall property.

  But even so, in this case, I would say that such people did not have emotional reasons to leave the organization as I did, but perhaps were convinced by logic and then emotion came later.

  --sd-7