Posts by sd-7

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What happened immediately after your Judicial Committee was over?

by civicsi00 in

whenever i went to my judicial committee (over 3 years ago), the elders opened with a prayer for jehbooboo's guidance.

then they followed up with their loyalty question, "do you believe in the faithful and discreet slave?".

of course i answered "no", and shortly thereafter i handed over my disassociation letter.

sd-7

From my Borg court thread here on JWN nearly 3 years ago:

It was maybe 10-15 minutes before they called me back in to tell me I was to be disfellowshipped. Announcement will be made on the 10th, right after the special assembly day. The thing that seemed particularly hypocritical was that they just ended the committee right there--no prayer, nothing. Just, that's it. Bye. If you really hope that I get "restored" spiritually, why not have the decency to offer one last prayer in my behalf? Instead, just cold silence.

It was as though a chill wind passed through, the utter silence. I was grieved at how unyielding they were, how they couldn't see that I wasn't a bad person because I disagreed. I glanced at each of them, said, "Take care," and went home to give my wife the news. I can still remember the look on her face, and...the hurt never really goes away, knowing that maybe that wasn't what she expected or what she hoped for, maybe she hoped I would rethink my beliefs. Everything had already gone to hell weeks before. The rest was just ceremony.

--sd-7

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At JW.Org, for kids, a connect the dots coloring page of Lot's wife turning into salt.

by Theocratic Sedition in

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http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/picture-activities/lots-wife-becomes-salt/.

is it me or is this kinda sick?

i mean i can understand learning from the account, but this is kinda deviant.

sd-7

I wouldn't advise showin' very young children Jesus bloodied on the cross

in a coloring book or even a print out

I think that's what underscores my point--not even the source of salvation (something positive, in the long run) should be presented that way, so why do it for anything else?

--sd-7

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2013 District Convention Program: Gods Word is Truth!

by bats in the belfry in

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unlike god's word, that jws believe to be absolute truth, any one of their directives given at the 2013 district convention could be subject to misinterpretation.. .

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sd-7

Canine Apostates (Revelation 22:15)

--LOL!

--sd-7

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2013 District Convention Program: Gods Word is Truth!

by bats in the belfry in

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unlike god's word, that jws believe to be absolute truth, any one of their directives given at the 2013 district convention could be subject to misinterpretation.. .

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“The False Stylus” (Jeremiah 8:8, 9)

--Why do I get the feeling this is going to be an anti-technology talk?

And here's the maaaain event!!! In this corner, invisibly present, weighing in at an indeterminate weight,

11:10 Symposium: Beware of Apostates!

Satan (John 8:44)

Human Apostates (1 John 2:19)

--Wow, there are HUMAN apostates?? I thought they were all devil-wolf-alien creatures!!

So, there's another drama on Sunday as well, about Esther! Plus a sound drama on Saturday, so we've got like 3 dramas. They're really spicing it up this year! I think I'm going to be snorting milk through my nose in laughter at some point, I guarantee it. Either that, or vomiting in the bathroom that always smells of one big fart. We'll see.

Wow, can't believe it's only...what, less than five months away...I can't tell you how excited I am.

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2013 District Convention Program: Gods Word is Truth!

by bats in the belfry in

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unlike god's word, that jws believe to be absolute truth, any one of their directives given at the 2013 district convention could be subject to misinterpretation.. .

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sd-7

3:30 Drama: “ShowYourselfAttentive to theWonderful

Works of God” (Job 37:14)

--So the drama is on Friday this year. I need to find a way for our family to miss Friday. Hmm...then again, that'll be the only fun part of the program, so...never mind...

4:00 “Buy Truth Itself and Do Not Sell It” (Proverbs 23:23)

--Oh, and we do accept debit and credit cards now, don't forget!

4:20 Believe Inspired Truth, Not Inspired Error

(1 Timothy 4:1; 1 John 4:1, 6)

--Hmm, maybe this one will be a review of the organization's "inspired errors"? One can only hope.

--sd-7

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2013 District Convention Program: Gods Word is Truth!

by bats in the belfry in

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unlike god's word, that jws believe to be absolute truth, any one of their directives given at the 2013 district convention could be subject to misinterpretation.. .

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sd-7

Symposium: How Did You Learn theTruth?

Informal Witnessing (John 4:5-7)

Raised by Christian Parents (Ephesians 6:4)

Formal Witnessing (Acts 20:20)

Relatives (Acts 10:24)

Through Our Publications (Acts 8:30, 31)

Searching for God (Matthew13:45, 46)

....Hmmm...something's missing from this symposium....oh! Right! FROM THE BIBLE!!!! But "Through Our Publications" is sure in there!!

--sd-7

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2013 District Convention Program: Gods Word is Truth!

by bats in the belfry in

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unlike god's word, that jws believe to be absolute truth, any one of their directives given at the 2013 district convention could be subject to misinterpretation.. .

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sd-7

So that's the theme? Guess I'll check the website for the official program, your images aren't coming out on my screen.

--sd-7

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Addressing The False Claim That Jehovah's Witnesses Do Not Think "Independently"

by Bangalore in

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addressing the false claim that jehovah's witnesses do not think "independently.. .

http://defendingjehovahswitnesses.blogspot.com/2013/02/addressing-false-claim-that-jehovahs.html#.

from a wt apologist.. .

sd-7

Whoever says that Jehovah's Witnesses do not investigate, challenge, and scrutinize their beliefs is either completely ignorant of Jehovah's

Witnesses, or purposely spreading prejudicial information.

Whoever says that Jehovah's Witnesses have the right to investigate, challenge, and scrutinize their beliefs is without a doubt completely ignorant of Jehovah's Witnesses and, perhaps unknowingly, spreading false information.

The problem is they're not even capable of considering the possibility that they're wrong in some specific and important way. What's interesting is the complete absence of any mention of the 'faithful and discreet slave' as THE source of all their 'Bible teachings' in this entire essay. This sounds like the sort of response a JW would give to the media, completely obscuring reality and omitting very important facts.

If this is sincere, as it likely is, it's just a case of the author being incapable of putting two and two together. They reference 'Logic' in the Watchtower Index, which I take it would be...a form of 'independent research'? Perhaps his idea of independent research is looking up a subject in the Watchtower Publications Index all by himself, without anyone telling him which subject to look up. Which is very different from looking up a quote from an outside source that is made in a Watchtower publication. Very different, indeed.

--sd-7

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At JW.Org, for kids, a connect the dots coloring page of Lot's wife turning into salt.

by Theocratic Sedition in

jw
friends

http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/picture-activities/lots-wife-becomes-salt/.

is it me or is this kinda sick?

i mean i can understand learning from the account, but this is kinda deviant.

sd-7

I compare this to how 'the world' makes coloring books. Even with characters like Batman and Superman, where there would be violence in their actual stories (comics, movies, etc.), they have better sense than to make a Joker coloring book where he's slaughtering people with toxic gas. It's just common sense not to do that.

Why not use the same reasoning as for not wearing a cross here? If a faithful JW lost his mate in a grisly death, even if she was unfaithful, would you make a coloring book page out of her crime scene photo and have your kids connect the dots? It would be very upsetting.

Think of this. In the resurrection, Lot would presumably come back, and how would he feel if he sees this image--the death of his wife as a kids' drawing activity? At best, this would be grossly offensive to him, as surely her death would have grieved him greatly. But that's where we hit a wall of reality, isn't it? Because you see, maybe, maybe not even the Society expects to see Lot again. If their teachings were real to them, I can't see them in good conscience approving such usage of this woman's death.

Oooh, wait...what am I thinking? When it comes to cold-hearted stuff, the Society is absolute zero. So this isn't any more barbaric than the actual deaths they are directly responsible for, is it?

--sd-7

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The huge impact the JWs have out in their door knocking --- May 15, 2013

by RayPublisher in

the may 15, 2013 washtowel has a cute little piece of artwork about what an impact they make out in serve-us.

i thought some captions might help make it clearer!.

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sd-7

No skater kid would have such a ridiculous plaid shirt. They are really out of touch ....

Perhaps they're going for an '80s kid movie style there...

I figured they just smudged some dirt on the garbageman's face and it wasn't stubble there at all...

Thing is, your presence out there actually says nothing at all to observers, because they have no idea what you are out there for if they don't know what your message is. Right? Ask anyone on the street what JWs believe, and what'll you probably hear? 'They don't celebrate birthdays', 'they don't take blood'--that'll be the majority of answers you get, but unless it's someone who actually studied with them a lot, you probably won't be hearing 'they preach the good news of the kingdom', that's for sure. Whenever your rules are better known than your message, you can consider your efforts to be a massive failure.

--sd-7