Posts by sd-7

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New May Awake! Am I being unreasonable or does this sound crazy!?

by toweragent in

my friends usually walked me home after dark.

but one evening i was so tired that i decided to call a taxi.

the driver didnt take me home.

sd-7

"Therefore, a victim who was unable to scream but otherwise did all she could under the circumstances can leave matters in Jehovah’s hands."

I think we should bear in mind the exact wording of this most recent ('03) quote. It doesn't say that the woman is not guilty; it says she can leave matters in Jehovah's hands. So this actually doesn't say the woman is not guilty for being raped. If anything, it's a code for saying she will get a judicial committee where "Jehovah" (ie. three elders) will determine whether or not she was actually raped.

If she didn't scream, there is nothing in this sentence that really says she's in the clear (just as there is nothing in the sentence that really says she isn't in the clear, either). Two factors are put before what will surely be a committee: (1) did she scream? (2) If she did not scream, did she otherwise do all she could under the circumstances? If the answers to both are 'no', then it is theoretically possible and maybe even likely that some elders would DF her. I'd like to think that most wouldn't, but I do believe some most certainly would.

Either way, would there really be a point in her screaming in an abandoned field? It's abandoned. Who's going to hear you scream? Will they call the rapist in to testify that he heard her scream? What's the point in this quote? Just to tell them they should scream, which implies to me, at least, that the same rule is in effect, but they just can't (or don't) overtly spell it out as they used to.

--sd-7

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Addressing The False Claim That Jehovah's Witnesses Do Not Think "Independently"

by Bangalore in

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addressing the false claim that jehovah's witnesses do not think "independently.. .

http://defendingjehovahswitnesses.blogspot.com/2013/02/addressing-false-claim-that-jehovahs.html#.

from a wt apologist.. .

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If it looks like a Duck,Walks like a Duck and .. It must be an..

Quacks like a Duck .. Ice Cream Truck..

"Evidently, some ice cream trucks may indeed 'quack like a duck' in modern times, thanks to custom-made horns and music devices. They may 'look like a duck' in terms of the way paint was used in a sophisticated art design. They may 'walk like a duck' perhaps due to neglect of auto maintenance, which may cause the vehicle to wobble as a duck might while walking. Can we assume, then, that these are in fact, not ducks, despite looking like, walking like, and quacking like ducks? By no means!"

--sd-7

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What happened immediately after your Judicial Committee was over?

by civicsi00 in

whenever i went to my judicial committee (over 3 years ago), the elders opened with a prayer for jehbooboo's guidance.

then they followed up with their loyalty question, "do you believe in the faithful and discreet slave?".

of course i answered "no", and shortly thereafter i handed over my disassociation letter.

sd-7

From my Borg court thread here on JWN nearly 3 years ago:

It was maybe 10-15 minutes before they called me back in to tell me I was to be disfellowshipped. Announcement will be made on the 10th, right after the special assembly day. The thing that seemed particularly hypocritical was that they just ended the committee right there--no prayer, nothing. Just, that's it. Bye. If you really hope that I get "restored" spiritually, why not have the decency to offer one last prayer in my behalf? Instead, just cold silence.

It was as though a chill wind passed through, the utter silence. I was grieved at how unyielding they were, how they couldn't see that I wasn't a bad person because I disagreed. I glanced at each of them, said, "Take care," and went home to give my wife the news. I can still remember the look on her face, and...the hurt never really goes away, knowing that maybe that wasn't what she expected or what she hoped for, maybe she hoped I would rethink my beliefs. Everything had already gone to hell weeks before. The rest was just ceremony.

--sd-7

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At JW.Org, for kids, a connect the dots coloring page of Lot's wife turning into salt.

by Theocratic Sedition in

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http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/picture-activities/lots-wife-becomes-salt/.

is it me or is this kinda sick?

i mean i can understand learning from the account, but this is kinda deviant.

sd-7

I wouldn't advise showin' very young children Jesus bloodied on the cross

in a coloring book or even a print out

I think that's what underscores my point--not even the source of salvation (something positive, in the long run) should be presented that way, so why do it for anything else?

--sd-7

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2013 District Convention Program: Gods Word is Truth!

by bats in the belfry in

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unlike god's word, that jws believe to be absolute truth, any one of their directives given at the 2013 district convention could be subject to misinterpretation.. .

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Canine Apostates (Revelation 22:15)

--LOL!

--sd-7

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2013 District Convention Program: Gods Word is Truth!

by bats in the belfry in

.

unlike god's word, that jws believe to be absolute truth, any one of their directives given at the 2013 district convention could be subject to misinterpretation.. .

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“The False Stylus” (Jeremiah 8:8, 9)

--Why do I get the feeling this is going to be an anti-technology talk?

And here's the maaaain event!!! In this corner, invisibly present, weighing in at an indeterminate weight,

11:10 Symposium: Beware of Apostates!

Satan (John 8:44)

Human Apostates (1 John 2:19)

--Wow, there are HUMAN apostates?? I thought they were all devil-wolf-alien creatures!!

So, there's another drama on Sunday as well, about Esther! Plus a sound drama on Saturday, so we've got like 3 dramas. They're really spicing it up this year! I think I'm going to be snorting milk through my nose in laughter at some point, I guarantee it. Either that, or vomiting in the bathroom that always smells of one big fart. We'll see.

Wow, can't believe it's only...what, less than five months away...I can't tell you how excited I am.

--sd-7

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2013 District Convention Program: Gods Word is Truth!

by bats in the belfry in

.

unlike god's word, that jws believe to be absolute truth, any one of their directives given at the 2013 district convention could be subject to misinterpretation.. .

.

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3:30 Drama: “ShowYourselfAttentive to theWonderful

Works of God” (Job 37:14)

--So the drama is on Friday this year. I need to find a way for our family to miss Friday. Hmm...then again, that'll be the only fun part of the program, so...never mind...

4:00 “Buy Truth Itself and Do Not Sell It” (Proverbs 23:23)

--Oh, and we do accept debit and credit cards now, don't forget!

4:20 Believe Inspired Truth, Not Inspired Error

(1 Timothy 4:1; 1 John 4:1, 6)

--Hmm, maybe this one will be a review of the organization's "inspired errors"? One can only hope.

--sd-7

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2013 District Convention Program: Gods Word is Truth!

by bats in the belfry in

.

unlike god's word, that jws believe to be absolute truth, any one of their directives given at the 2013 district convention could be subject to misinterpretation.. .

.

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Symposium: How Did You Learn theTruth?

Informal Witnessing (John 4:5-7)

Raised by Christian Parents (Ephesians 6:4)

Formal Witnessing (Acts 20:20)

Relatives (Acts 10:24)

Through Our Publications (Acts 8:30, 31)

Searching for God (Matthew13:45, 46)

....Hmmm...something's missing from this symposium....oh! Right! FROM THE BIBLE!!!! But "Through Our Publications" is sure in there!!

--sd-7

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2013 District Convention Program: Gods Word is Truth!

by bats in the belfry in

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unlike god's word, that jws believe to be absolute truth, any one of their directives given at the 2013 district convention could be subject to misinterpretation.. .

.

sd-7

So that's the theme? Guess I'll check the website for the official program, your images aren't coming out on my screen.

--sd-7

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Addressing The False Claim That Jehovah's Witnesses Do Not Think "Independently"

by Bangalore in

jw
friends

addressing the false claim that jehovah's witnesses do not think "independently.. .

http://defendingjehovahswitnesses.blogspot.com/2013/02/addressing-false-claim-that-jehovahs.html#.

from a wt apologist.. .

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Whoever says that Jehovah's Witnesses do not investigate, challenge, and scrutinize their beliefs is either completely ignorant of Jehovah's

Witnesses, or purposely spreading prejudicial information.

Whoever says that Jehovah's Witnesses have the right to investigate, challenge, and scrutinize their beliefs is without a doubt completely ignorant of Jehovah's Witnesses and, perhaps unknowingly, spreading false information.

The problem is they're not even capable of considering the possibility that they're wrong in some specific and important way. What's interesting is the complete absence of any mention of the 'faithful and discreet slave' as THE source of all their 'Bible teachings' in this entire essay. This sounds like the sort of response a JW would give to the media, completely obscuring reality and omitting very important facts.

If this is sincere, as it likely is, it's just a case of the author being incapable of putting two and two together. They reference 'Logic' in the Watchtower Index, which I take it would be...a form of 'independent research'? Perhaps his idea of independent research is looking up a subject in the Watchtower Publications Index all by himself, without anyone telling him which subject to look up. Which is very different from looking up a quote from an outside source that is made in a Watchtower publication. Very different, indeed.

--sd-7