Posts by pepperheart

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2005 - The year the Society began its decline (without anyone noticing)!

by cedars in

i've just finished an article for randy over on freeminds.org, which i've submitted to him for review.

hopefully it should be online soon, so please keep checking!.

the article discusses the fact that the watch tower society is already in decline, and suggests the year 2005 as the turning point.

pepperheart

this is a really good thread to read

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Spanish JW's Upset Over Bethel Move

by Gary1914 in

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on april 1, 2009 a letter was sent from the governing body of jehovahs witnesses to congregations in spain informing them that the printing, shipping, and storage of watchtower publications would be discontinued at the madrid branch office.

the letter expressed confidence that the spanish witnesses would, despite the move, continue to generously support the world wide work and ends with an appeal to remain united under the direction of the witness leadership.. at a glance, this story may seem like a non-issue, perhaps, just another example of reorganization and consolidation within a multinational corporation; however, the dissolution of the printing branch has caused considerable hard feelings among some of jehovahs witnesses in spain.

to understand the reason we must first look at the history behind the branch office and external factors that some feel prompted this abrupt move.. early in their history, jehovahs witnesses began printing their trademark watchtower magazines and associated books and tracts in-house at their bethel headquarters in brooklyn, new york.

pepperheart

This happend in spain a few years ago could it happen in any other countey ?

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Are Jehovah’s Witnesses losing the War on Apostates

by Watchtower-Free in

found this.

http://jwalumni.org/2015/06/08/who-are-jehovahs-witnesses-september-watchtower/.

by misha anouk on 8. june 2015 in news

pepperheart

Because they are short of money they are trying to get people to go on the web to read JW stuff but when people do on the web they can quite easily find out the truth.(i went round 4 carts today and they all mentioned jw.org to me

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Views on handing out literature during field service

by Joey Jo-Jo in

it is brought to my attention that some non jw's deliberately accept jw literature just to throw it in the bin.. their intentions are perceived as positive meaning these non jw's throwing their magazines away is a good thing.. what is your view on the matter?.

should they accept or not accept their literature, and why?.

is accepting literature benefiting or damaging the cult, and why?.

pepperheart

Does it really matter what the people on the cart think.As an extreme example if every single magazine and booklet and flyer was taken from a cart,just so that people could throw them in the trash and that happend every day for a whole year but not one person came on a sunday or got baptized the only differance would have been that headquaters would have paid $$$$$ to print and transport all the magazines and books

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Views on handing out literature during field service

by Joey Jo-Jo in

it is brought to my attention that some non jw's deliberately accept jw literature just to throw it in the bin.. their intentions are perceived as positive meaning these non jw's throwing their magazines away is a good thing.. what is your view on the matter?.

should they accept or not accept their literature, and why?.

is accepting literature benefiting or damaging the cult, and why?.

pepperheart

taking literature is bad for the cult because it all has to be paid for by headquarters and when a member of the governing body has been on the web saying that they have got more money going out then coming in then to me that says that money is tight.It depends where you live a friend in the uk was telling me that all their "what does the bible really teach " books are printed in new york and then have to be shipped to the uk and then transported 100s of miles all over the uk.Also in the uk all their foreign langue versions of "what does the bible really teach" are printed in germany.How much does it cost to transport books from new york to the west coast

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Cart Witnessing - Thrilling! Productive! Epic! Er.....um, well, not so much.....

by sir82 in

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talked with a pioneer recently, she was recounting her first experience with cart witnessing.. she brought the subject up, was going on & on & on & on about how wonderful the experience was, and how great, and how she enjoyed it so much, and it was so wonderful, and oh jehovah's blessing, and on and on and on...... a few questions to her revealed what really happened:.

-- a jw who owns a small restaurant in a strip mall allows jws to set up their cart outside his restaurant.

-- the restaurant is tucked pretty far out of the way, not prominent at all.

pepperheart

i like the carts its more easy to take the teaching books and put them in the trash my record is 101 "what does the bible really teach" books disposed of in one week

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Epic Discussion ( Confrontation ) with JW Cart People about WT Child Abuse

by flipper in

so i had about had enough of reading jw's excuses online about wt child abuse and the candace conti nightline abc video about her case.

this is a really deep burning topic to me as i'm sure it is to many of you.

so today the gloves came off.

pepperheart

im to shy to do any thing like that but i just take their teaching books and throw them in the trash

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Trolley Stands Up, Door-to-Door Work Down?

by steve2 in

several threads have discussed the increased use of of the trolley work by witnesses in various countries (e.g, australia, new zealand, the states, canada and britain to name a few).

several posters have described trolley settings as largely ignored by passersby and/or the witnesses immersed in everything other than appearing ready and waiting to make contact with passersby.

what impact will this increased shift to trolley work have on the hallmark feature of jws, their door-to-door work?

pepperheart

the trolley dolly have to be veted by their elders and are given tips what to say and do and not say and do and its a good excuse to use up all the books etc just this week ive seen a trolley full of teaching books from 2006 and the OLD VERSION of "what does the bible really teach"

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Bethel Meeting at Regional Convention

by MrTheocratic in

i decided to go to the bethel recruiting meeting yesterday to test out my theory that the organization is in decline.

i assumed that if there is a general feeling of apathy by many in the org, then certainly it would be shown up by the lack of enthusiasm or zeal by many to sign up for bethel service.

well let me say that based on what i observed, this organization is not going anywhere.

pepperheart

how many people work at bethel etc in new york now, i have heard about a 1000 so in due time they will need people to replace the ones who leave or die just to keep the wheels turning

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Kingdom Hall Money Grab Was for Child Abuse Its Completely Clear

by thedepressedsoul in

if youve followed the news lately there are more and more child abuse cases popping up.

one lawyer said he has over 28 cases in the pipeline that are going to be coming out soon.

on december 1 st a new one just popped up.

pepperheart

they have closed 20 headquaters around the world and moving from prime spots in new york and london.And also these past months have been in two big citys giving out teaching books that were printed in 2006 and just this week they are still giving out the OLD VERSION of the "what does the bible really teach" books