Here's another thought: do average JWs describe themselves as you all as "2nd generation born-in," "3rd generation Witness," Etc.? Then they clearly™ understand what a generation is, right? Or is that just a JWN thing?
greenie
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NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower
by Ultimate Reality infrom jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
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Jehovah's Witness Sunday Meetings
by Cold Steel inwhat can visitors expect who just pop in?.
do they offer communion?
pass the plate?
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NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower
by Ultimate Reality infrom jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
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greenie
Maybe you should just make a JW explain the current concept to you in great detail BEFORE April 2010.
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Blood Transfusions 101 for JW's
by moshe inblood transfusions 101 for jw's-.
a blood transfusion will not save the life of a starving man = a blood transfusion is not food = a blood transfusion does not violate the ot law given by god to the jews to, "not eat blood" and that was later reiterated by the jewish christians to the gentile christians = the watchtower no-blood transfusion doctrine is a manmade abomination that kills innocent people = the watchtower society is guilty of promoting manslaughter.. .
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greenie
There's also a scripture - I can't remember where now - that talks about how honorable it is for a man to lay down his soul for a brother. If the blood is the soul, that to be would show support very literally for blood donation.
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I've just lost a Loved one
by AwSnap inthe thing that sucks is that they are very much alive & we are literally less than five miles apart from each other everyday.
i had a long talk with one of my siblings today.
i've been getting a really weird vibe lately...today it was confirmed that i will be shunned from here on out from them.
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AwSnap! I don't think I've every directly talked to you, but I just wanted to say that while I understand your need to go, I surely wish you wouldn't leave! I really value your stories, insight, advice, etc. You'll definitely be missed here!
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How do you talk to your kids?
by greenie injust a question that's been bubbling around in my head the last couple of weeks as more new people join the board or others become more established.
for those of you on here that have children, nieces, nephews, grandkids, cousins, friends' kids, etc., how do you talk to them about what the jws teach?
i know there are many here that are in mixed relationships that either started that way or became that way when one left, i know there are those here that have both left, and in any circumstances, i'm just wondering how you talk to your kids about the religion and their beliefs.
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greenie
Thanks for all the responses. Does anyone else have thoughts? I know there are a lot here with kids of varying ages. Are they just that resilient?
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Need some help on 1919
by JerkhovahsWitless ina family member wants to know where in what publications does it say that jesus selected the wt in 1919.. it seems i've read that statement over and over again on "apostate" forums, but right now i can't find what publication it says that in.. this could be my chance to start planting seeds of doubt and expose 607, muahaha!
*evil apostate laugh* .
any know this off hand and can point me in the right direction?
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greenie
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, JWFacts, this is interesting. So when most (edited: I don't know that MOST people here say that) people on here say JWs believe Jehovah selected the organization in 1914, that's false. Current teaching (according to your post above) says they were chosen in 1919?
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Watchtower.org on "Manipulation of Information" - Hypocrisy Alert
by skeeter1 intalk about the pot calling the kettle black!
the watchtower has sunk to a new depth of hypocrisy.
check out this bullshit.
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greenie
If you look on the WTs web site, they have an article right next to this one on why they AREN'T using propaganda. http://www.watchtower.org/e/20000622/diagram_01.htm
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Is the Work of Jehovah's Witnesses Propagandistic?
Some opponents of Jehovah's Witnesses have accused them of spreading Zionist propaganda. Others have charged that the ministry of the Witnesses promotes Communism. Still others have claimed that the work of Jehovah's Witnesses promotes the ideals and interests of "American imperialism." And there are those who assert that the Witnesses are anarchists, fomenting disorder with the aim of changing the social, economic, political, or legal order. Obviously, these conflicting accusations cannot all be true.
The simple fact is that Jehovah's Witnesses are none of the above. The work of the Witnesses is carried out in faithful obedience to Jesus Christ's mandate to his disciples: "You will be witnesses of me . . . to the most distant part of the earth." (Acts 1:8) Their work focuses solely and exclusively on the good news of the heavenly Kingdom—God's instrument for bringing peace to the whole earth.—Matthew 6:10; 24:14.
Observers of Jehovah's Witnesses have found no evidence that this Christian community has ever been a force disruptive of the good order of any land.
Many journalists, judges, and others have commented on the positive contributions that Jehovah's Witnesses have made to the communities in which they live. Consider some examples. After attending a convention of Jehovah's Witnesses, a reporter from southern Europe commented: "These are people with strong family ties, they are taught to love and to live by their conscience so as not to harm others."
Another journalist, formerly negative about the Witnesses, stated: "They live an exemplary life. They do not violate the standards of what is moral and right." A political scientist similarly remarked about the Witnesses: "They behave toward other people with profound kindness, love and gentleness."
Jehovah's Witnesses teach the rightness of submission to authority. As law-abiding citizens, they follow Bible standards of honesty, truthfulness, and cleanliness. They build good morals into their own families, and they help others to learn how they can do the same. They live peaceably with all men, not getting involved in disruptive demonstrations or political revolutions. Jehovah's Witnesses seek to be exemplary in obeying the laws of the human superior authorities, while they wait patiently on the Supreme Authority, the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, to restore perfect peace and righteous government to this earth.
At the same time, the work of the Witnesses is educational. Using the Bible as a basis, they teach people worldwide to reason on Bible principles and thereby develop right standards of conduct and moral integrity. They promote values that improve family life and help young people cope with their peculiar challenges. They also help people to find the strength to overcome bad habits and to develop the ability to get along with others. Such a work would hardly be termed "propaganda." As The World Book Encyclopedia says, in a climate where ideas circulate freely, "propaganda differs from education."
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Panic attacks + "You had another nightmare last night": Part 2
by sd-7 inever since i got married and had to return to cult activities to keep peace in my home, i've been having panic attacks.
i think i'm having panic attacks.
... anyone else go through panic attacks?
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greenie
I get really tense around it too. It's like you subconsciously put yourself on guard so that you can't be manipulated. If you haven't yet, I would seriously consider getting some counseling to help with the panic attacks. Doing regular physical activity that actually raises your heartrate to around 130 will also help to raise your threshhold for panicky feelings.
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How do you talk to your kids?
by greenie injust a question that's been bubbling around in my head the last couple of weeks as more new people join the board or others become more established.
for those of you on here that have children, nieces, nephews, grandkids, cousins, friends' kids, etc., how do you talk to them about what the jws teach?
i know there are many here that are in mixed relationships that either started that way or became that way when one left, i know there are those here that have both left, and in any circumstances, i'm just wondering how you talk to your kids about the religion and their beliefs.
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Just a question that's been bubbling around in my head the last couple of weeks as more new people join the board or others become more established. For those of you on here that have children, nieces, nephews, grandkids, cousins, friends' kids, etc., how do you talk to them about what the JWs teach? I know there are many here that are in mixed relationships that either started that way or became that way when one left, I know there are those here that have both left, and in any circumstances, I'm just wondering how you talk to your kids about the religion and their beliefs. I would have to think for myself that the JWs teachings would have scared the you-know-what out of me as a child.