Can someone explain this to me in super layman's terms? I don't really get it - they're complex!
greenie
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Notes From the Annual Meeting - Oct 3, 2009
by daniel-p infrom a little bird... .
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notes from annual meeting (oct 3, 2009) .
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So I did it - almost!
by wantstoleave intoday, i'm not quite sure how it started, but i voiced my concerns about the religion i've been brought up in since i was 3. my dad went straight on the offensive, though kept nice and polite.
i told them that someone can not be df for accepting a transfusion.
not sure why i started with that example, but nevertheless... dad said 'since when' and started pumping me for information, when, where, what...you get the picture and biggest one of all 'how do you know this'.
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greenie
Does anyone know where there are WT quotes that say all non-JWs will be destroyed at Armageddon? My Dub always says that no man can know another's fate when he dies - that's between him and his maker.
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Sad today
by greenie infirst, it feels so weird typing all this to strangers, but here goes anyway.. i suppose my jw had an epiphany recently because we had some really deep talks this weekend.
he was very kind and calm about everything, but he basically said he's afraid i won't be happy in our life together because of his jw lifestyle.
he says he knows a life with him isn't the one i pictured for myself and that he doesn't feel able to make the kind of compromises i would want or need to be happy.
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greenie
But if you were married. The elders would come & tell you how wrong you are.
First, this statement shows me how long the JW influence must last on a person. Second, this is the bottom line: I WOULD NOT CARE IF SOME ELDERS CAME BY AND TOLD ME ANYTHING. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN THEIR MESSAGE. It would be like another religion or movement, Hindus or Wiccans or Numerologists, coming by to tell me how wrong I was about something. It wouldn't matter to me. I don't put stock in what they're selling.
But if you take the little one into this religion dont tell me you love her/him
I appreciate you're passionate on the topic, but I don't appreciate my love for my child being questioned. I'm sure as a mother you understand.
I'm glad your daughter found happiness with a nice guy.
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So I did it - almost!
by wantstoleave intoday, i'm not quite sure how it started, but i voiced my concerns about the religion i've been brought up in since i was 3. my dad went straight on the offensive, though kept nice and polite.
i told them that someone can not be df for accepting a transfusion.
not sure why i started with that example, but nevertheless... dad said 'since when' and started pumping me for information, when, where, what...you get the picture and biggest one of all 'how do you know this'.
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greenie
Chalam, I looked up the 1 Corinthians verse you cite. What does it mean?
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Sad today
by greenie infirst, it feels so weird typing all this to strangers, but here goes anyway.. i suppose my jw had an epiphany recently because we had some really deep talks this weekend.
he was very kind and calm about everything, but he basically said he's afraid i won't be happy in our life together because of his jw lifestyle.
he says he knows a life with him isn't the one i pictured for myself and that he doesn't feel able to make the kind of compromises i would want or need to be happy.
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greenie
Heaven - can you tell me more about your story? Do you think you actually wouldn't have married him? I seems like I have a lot to lose either way. He is an amazing guy. I think one thing we can do is not rush into marriage to see how we actually work together. He hasn't been practicing the entire time we've been together, so I have no idea what he would be like as a JW.
Mouthy - were your daughters JWs? You say, "...so in the end had to obey their husband every whim..." but I don't feel I have to obey anyone, just because and definitely not because of their gender. I hear about this headship a lot, but personally, I don't believe in it, so I wouldn't abide by a decision, especially if he said "Because I'm the man and I said so!" He knows that too.
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So I did it - almost!
by wantstoleave intoday, i'm not quite sure how it started, but i voiced my concerns about the religion i've been brought up in since i was 3. my dad went straight on the offensive, though kept nice and polite.
i told them that someone can not be df for accepting a transfusion.
not sure why i started with that example, but nevertheless... dad said 'since when' and started pumping me for information, when, where, what...you get the picture and biggest one of all 'how do you know this'.
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greenie
I can't imagine not celebrating my baby's birth. As long as you do it with the right intention, I think. I'm in part celebrating the passage of another wonderful year that God has given to our baby and us. You don't have to do anything extravagant, either, but I think it's great to have a special day for your kids.
May I ask what the history with the father is? Is he still in the picture? A JW? I ask because I'm in a mixed relationship (me never a JW, him born in and still in)
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Sad today
by greenie infirst, it feels so weird typing all this to strangers, but here goes anyway.. i suppose my jw had an epiphany recently because we had some really deep talks this weekend.
he was very kind and calm about everything, but he basically said he's afraid i won't be happy in our life together because of his jw lifestyle.
he says he knows a life with him isn't the one i pictured for myself and that he doesn't feel able to make the kind of compromises i would want or need to be happy.
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greenie
I think he really is just trying to be honest with me. I think he tried to compromise a little and so far it isn't working for him. We still have a lot of talking to do.
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Sad today
by greenie infirst, it feels so weird typing all this to strangers, but here goes anyway.. i suppose my jw had an epiphany recently because we had some really deep talks this weekend.
he was very kind and calm about everything, but he basically said he's afraid i won't be happy in our life together because of his jw lifestyle.
he says he knows a life with him isn't the one i pictured for myself and that he doesn't feel able to make the kind of compromises i would want or need to be happy.
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greenie
Thanks everyone. I've posted here before with questions, but so you know, we actually already have a child.
Wobble - I don't think he's subtlely trying to find anything out. He knows and I've very bluntly told him that I would never be a JW. There is no question about it. He knows some mixed couples and knows it can work, but that's it's incredibly hard. The problem with our convo is that he basically said he didn't think he'd be able to compromise or be a sometimes JW and wanted me to know that and go into any marriage with my eyes wide open.
I guess my sadness today comes from the fact that whether you believe the religion or not, the people in it are real, and many of them are great people. I love him so much and am just very sad from our conversation. I always read on here how it tears families apart and now I'm actually experiencing it. In almost every other single way we are so compatible. I know some of you have experienced this and so are quick to say run, but when it's happening to you, it's really hard to do that. It's horrible. I am just so sad. I feel frustrated and defeated and nauseous.
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Sad today
by greenie infirst, it feels so weird typing all this to strangers, but here goes anyway.. i suppose my jw had an epiphany recently because we had some really deep talks this weekend.
he was very kind and calm about everything, but he basically said he's afraid i won't be happy in our life together because of his jw lifestyle.
he says he knows a life with him isn't the one i pictured for myself and that he doesn't feel able to make the kind of compromises i would want or need to be happy.
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greenie
First, it feels so weird typing all this to strangers, but here goes anyway.
I suppose my JW had an epiphany recently because we had some really deep talks this weekend. He was very kind and calm about everything, but he basically said he's afraid I won't be happy in our life together because of his JW lifestyle. He says he knows a life with him isn't the one I pictured for myself and that he doesn't feel able to make the kind of compromises I would want or need to be happy. He still wants to get married and be with me always, but I need to decide if I could be happy in that life. He was very kind about all of this, not shoving it down my throat. I don't know what to do, but I definitely feel heartbroken right now.
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Does anyone think that maybe we're just wrong?
by paul from cleveland ini was disfellowshipped in 1995. even though i lost my friends and family, i felt like i had been finally set free and was happy for many years.
while i was a jehovah's witness, i always felt so miserable.
i never felt like i was doing enough to please jehovah.
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greenie
Ah, here's the UN letter. The WTS applied for membership in 1991, were granted it in 1992, and requested it be terminated in...1993? No. 1995? No. 1999? Nope. 2001? Bingo! Ten years later.