Posts by jacquicortez

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To Ex-JWs: Do You Regret Learning it Was a Lie?

by leavingwt in

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this question was inspired by a question on another thread.

to the ex-jw community here,.

do any of you regret learning that wt is not god's organization?

jacquicortez

no, I was miserable but didnt know it. i was so used to being told what to think, do and say

that sometimes i don't know what to do with myself.

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Odd CO talk...ever hear anything like this?

by sir82 in

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had our co visit last month.

normally the guy has all the charisma and charm of ben stein from "ferris buhler's day off", but he managed to give a talk that was actually coherent one night.. here is the rough outline:.

the theme was about the difference between "justice", "mercy", and "undeserved kindness".. situation 1: adam and eve sinned.

Wrong. The Biblical account is quite clear: God had already made up his mind that EVERYONE save Noah and family was to die. It never said God told Noah to preach a single thing, and it never said Noah preached a single thing. Even if he did, what would be the message? "You are all going to die. God says so. So there." What good would preaching something like that do? Nothing!

Farkel

all my life i was taught at the Kingdom hall and in all my bible studies that Noah preached to the people of his time. I've seen many dramas at the assemblies on Noah preaching to the wicked people and how they just refused to listen. I just picked up my bible (not a jw bible) and it says nothing about Noah preaching or being told to preach. NOTHING. I feel like i need a slap in the face. ..well that was a slap in the face. I feel like

i just got ripped off in a card trick.

Thank you farkel.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-03-10 WT Study (YOUR PRAYERS)

by blondie in

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comments you will not hear at the 01-03-2010 wt study (november 15, 2009, pages 3-7)(your prayers).

review comments will be in red or headed by comments.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

jacquicortez

thats sad...really sad. You have to hide holding hands with your spouse. I'm trying to figure out the purpose of this...there is something behind this.

this isnt about holding hands or control. I think they come up with this stuff to distract the rank and file. give them something to talk about.

the poor sisters that do get affection from their husbands will be worried. The ones who don't will be the police. it's a distraction something to keep them from being aware of whats really going on.

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Jw`s and Charities

by zzaphod in

hi all, i left the wts in the late `80s, i`ve not really given them a thought, until one sleepless night recently i was trawling the `tinterweb, and came across various videos on youtube.

anyway`s, the reasons i left were many and varied, and one day i`ll sit down and relate them, but two things have always stuck in my mind, once i was asked "if someone could convince you that without a doubt "the truth" was wrong, would you believe them?

", to which i answered "of course i would", - that was me marked.

jacquicortez

i work in a hospital i see how much charity is needed...so many people without insurance or under insured..charity is vital.

i can only imagine the JW's without insurance because lack of education leads to jobs that don't pay well enough to insure

a family. Many Jw's work part time to spend more time in the ministry. Alot of companies don't offer insurance to pt workers

I'm sure the local congregation wouldnt foot a medical bill.

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How I feel about the "truth"

by jacquicortez in

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"the truth"it's like someone giving you a box of puzzle pieces and the person tells you that the puzzle is from god.and that you should be so happy and humbled by the fact that it was given to you.

then you are told how to put it together when to put it together, who should help you, who should not help you,only marry other puzzle workers, only associate with other puzzle workers, you must dress and act like a puzzle worker and you can only use their instructions etc etc if you read any other instructions or use any other art form andif you don't do exactly as you are told to do with this puzzle you will die...and as you start to put it together you notice thatthe pieces don't all fit, but your constantly told that they do, so don't complain or else your puzzle will be taken away.

and you won't get the wonderful chance of putting it together and you will die.

jacquicortez

Thanx

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How I feel about the "truth"

by jacquicortez in

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"the truth"it's like someone giving you a box of puzzle pieces and the person tells you that the puzzle is from god.and that you should be so happy and humbled by the fact that it was given to you.

then you are told how to put it together when to put it together, who should help you, who should not help you,only marry other puzzle workers, only associate with other puzzle workers, you must dress and act like a puzzle worker and you can only use their instructions etc etc if you read any other instructions or use any other art form andif you don't do exactly as you are told to do with this puzzle you will die...and as you start to put it together you notice thatthe pieces don't all fit, but your constantly told that they do, so don't complain or else your puzzle will be taken away.

and you won't get the wonderful chance of putting it together and you will die.

jacquicortez

"THE TRUTH"

it's like someone giving you a box of puzzle pieces and the person tells you that the puzzle is from God.

and that you should be so happy and humbled by the fact that it was given to you.

Then you are told how to put it together when to put it together, who should help you, who should not help you,

only marry other puzzle workers, only associate with other puzzle workers, you must dress and act like a puzzle worker

 and you can only use their instructions etc etc if you read any other instructions or use any other art form and

If you don't do exactly as you are told to do with this puzzle you will die...and as you start to put it together you notice that

the pieces don't all fit, but your constantly told that they do, so don't complain or else your puzzle will be taken away

and you won't get the wonderful chance of putting it together and you will die. You work so hard to make it fit that you become

delusional. Your whole life is working on this puzzle. You are constantly shown an example of how the puzzle should look...but no matter how hard you work your puzzle never ever looks that way. but you are told to keep working on it. The work that you put into it will give you the picture not the correct pieces. Every now and then they come a take a few pieces away and add a few more. at this point you don't even care. You figure "hey it's better than painting"...besides they told you people that paint pictures are crazy and will die too unless they stop and get a box of puzzle pieces. you notice that painters do get dirty but they change their clothes, wash their hands and start over on a new canvas. Most seem to be happy with this. You're stuck with this puzzle and all you can do is wait for new pieces and pray they will fit(you really don't care)they tell you where to put every piece anyway. then you are told to give the same box to everyone you know.and tell them exactly what was told to you. if you don't you will die. so now you're walking around with this puzzle that cannot be put together and you try to pass it off on everyone you know... At first. After awhile you get tired.. you thought you had a treasure but after some years you don't really tell anyone about it(you pretend to). You just torture your family members with it because your pissed that they don't have the fear, burden and delusions that you now are cursed with. You keep thinking about those painters...they don't seem so bad. Yeah each one has a different picture but they all use the same colors and when they make a mess they get a new canvas. some don't have to get a new canvas they allow their mistakes to become apart of the artwork. They work hard for the picture too but because they want to not because they are afraid of being destroyed. they are allowed to use their brains. You were told that they have all sorts of problems that you will never have to deal with. fornication gambling etc it's all in those nasty pictures they paint. After many years you find out that your puzzle isnt the pretty picture you were promised.

in fact it's just a box of pieces.

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The "move away" Fade

by jacquicortez in

looking back there were quite a few families that did the "oh we're moving" fade.

they would move to a rural area.

or a state or two away.

jacquicortez

Looking back there were quite a few families that did the "oh we're moving" fade. They would move to a rural area

or a state or two away. some would move clear across country. Then after some time no one would hear from them anymore.

It was always sister "busy body" that would say "oh I tried to get in contact with so n so...i think they stop going to the hall".

That happens when you move away from the congregation where people know you and can help you stay close to Jehovah"

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Was there one single thing that told you non-JWs were not that bad after all?

by dgp in

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when you people were witnesses, was there one thing (or many) that really told you non-jw's were not that bad people after all?

was there anything other people did to you that got you thinking or, better yet, feeling that you hadn't been told the truth about us?.

thank you for your answers..

jacquicortez

when my husband left...only the "worldly" people i knew

called and said "hey how are you...do you need anything?"

they didnt ask me what was going on...they only wanted

to know if i was ok and was there anything they could do to help.

the one so called "sister" called telling me she was hearing rumors

i cussed her out and hung up the phone.

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How do you feel about street people asking you for money

by I quit! in

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about half of the freeway exits i get off at have someone there begging.

in the past i felt they were only hitting me up for money to by drugs or booze so i rarely handed them any.

in this economy i'm wondering if some of them aren't really in need of something to eat.

jacquicortez

if i have it...i give it...who knows...i feel like robdar i think sometimes a begger is a reminder of our great blessings.

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Fun with numbers (or the Watchtower running out of steam) Statistics

by Aussie Oz in

having a look through the march wt pdf and noticed the graph showing the growth of jws and did a little basic math.

now math was not my strongest subject at school so i can stand some correcting on this if need be... but anyway, a little fun with numbers:.

1970; 1'483'000 is a growth of about 390% (av 19.5% per year).

jacquicortez

the quality of fs had declined...a couple of weeks ago some jw's ranged my bell on a sat morning around 10:00 am

i was up but my kid was still sleeping. So i was all prepared to let them in and talk since now they woke up my kid.

well the "brother" asked if i spoke spanish. I said "no" and he said "ok" and walked away. I guess i don't get life

since i don't speak spanish. He clearly spoke english so language wasnt a problem

but maybe the HS lead him away because i'm disfellowhipped.

i'm sure that was it. and that was the first time i've seen a jw in the fs in the past 3 yrs i've been here. oh i did find

a track in another language under my door like a year ago.