Yknot, to clarify, I've not told them a damn thing. There is nothing but assumptions. They did purchase one of the items I was selling, and they claim that this one was theirs. So, you see, there are some things that really don't help me much, and for that reason I would like to avoid as much headache as possible. I do think that presenting this theocratically, will help, if I have to speak to them in the first place.
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Advice Needed!
by Cthulhu inso, as some of you know, the dubs in my locale have this story about me and breaking and entering and selling stolen goods, etc.
i've recieved several calls during the last few days.
they've even stopped at my job, again.
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Advice Needed!
by Cthulhu inso, as some of you know, the dubs in my locale have this story about me and breaking and entering and selling stolen goods, etc.
i've recieved several calls during the last few days.
they've even stopped at my job, again.
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So, Yknot, how much would you say to them in the mean time, while in the process of finding legal counsel? I don't want to make it appear that they are being ignored, as this might put them in what they feel is a position with few options other than what they've already threatened.
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Advice Needed!
by Cthulhu inso, as some of you know, the dubs in my locale have this story about me and breaking and entering and selling stolen goods, etc.
i've recieved several calls during the last few days.
they've even stopped at my job, again.
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So, nugget, in short it sounds like you wouldn't take them at their word for this. I kind of feel the same way. All I'd really like is to be left alone. I am not certain that to DA will insure anything of the sort. Rather, I am sure, it could end up being quite the opposite.
yknot, i agree. Isn't it funny how quickly they attack someone rather than try to aid them? Even if what they were saying were true, wouldn't it be their duty to try to assist a brother who has seemed to stray?
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Advice Needed!
by Cthulhu inso, as some of you know, the dubs in my locale have this story about me and breaking and entering and selling stolen goods, etc.
i've recieved several calls during the last few days.
they've even stopped at my job, again.
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So, as some of you know, the dubs in my locale have this story about me and breaking and entering and selling stolen goods, etc. I've recieved several calls during the last few days. They've even stopped at my job, again. Two days ago I called one of the elders and left a short message acknowledging that I'd recieved listened to his messages. I recorded this. Last night, several hours after they dropped in at my job, I recieved another call, to the effect of "we need a letter of disassociation. If you'd like to talk to us, we'd be happy to so we can put some of this behind us. We don't want to involve the police, but we need to do something soon." Basically I see it this way. They think they have this whole thing set and figured out and if I don't da, they will start using police to threaten me. If I do da they are expecting me to believe that they are going to put everything that they think has happened behind them. Is this likely? In other words, given the limited version of the account I'm telling you, does it seem probable that they Witnesses would drop something they thought a member had done if said member suddenly became ex-member?
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Help! Holy Spirit is Sucking me back in!
by BloominMarvellous inhi guys.
its been a long time since ive been on here!
just trying to get on with my life.
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I've been out for a while, but every once in a while I get to thinking "oh shit! what if they were right?" I call them phantom beliefs. A friend of mine, who is also an ex dub told me he went through the same thing for a year or more. He used to believe the demons were after him. Now that he's out he worries about people trying to break into his house. It's all about state of mind. It doesn't leave you quickly. Hang in there. The fairy tale bull shit will pass.
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My amazement is without end
by Cthulhu inso i've been gone from the org for a while now.
it occured to me that i had a number of old watchtower books and such that i was never going to read and saw that there was at least some monetary value in them when i browsed ebay.
so i got to selling them.
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So I've been gone from the org for a while now. It occured to me that I had a number of old Watchtower books and such that I was never going to read and saw that there was at least some monetary value in them when I browsed eBay. So I got to selling them. I told some friends of mine about it and guess what: for a cut they decided to let me sell a bunch of their old Witness propoganda too. I'd even been out of state a few times buying this crap in bulk from ex dubs that saw I was selling it and wanted to know if I'd take their lots off of their hands. No problem. Anyhow, recently a couple of folks that I always was and still am close with have left and the local congregation is not at all happy with me about it, as if I control the thoughts and decisions of these or any individuals. It's sort of a shame that, evidently, some became aware by some means that I was selling old books, because now the story is that I, somehow, got into their hall and took their books to sell. Now, to my knowledge, if there were any missing books to begin with, there were no broken windows. What's more, I didn't have a key, because they made me give it back after my wife left me and they took all my privilages away (which makes a whole lot of sense) WTF? They've been to my house and when I didn't answer their persistent knocking they proceeded to call me and ask me to make it easier by just signing whatever the hell it was they wanted me to sign. They've come to my job and told my boss that they really would like to talk to me before the police do. If they concocted a grand enough tale, could they actually do anything?
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Upcoming District Convention Talk/New Release
by Cthulhu ini have just been entrusted with a copy of one of the manuscript talks to be given at this years district convention.
the talk is entitled wearing our full spiritual armor in these last days, and will be delivered during the sunday morning session.
below is the manuscript that was provided to me.
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Ok, so maybe it's not really the convention outline, but wouldn't the dubs just love something like that? You know, to help keep them from thinking.
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Upcoming District Convention Talk/New Release
by Cthulhu ini have just been entrusted with a copy of one of the manuscript talks to be given at this years district convention.
the talk is entitled wearing our full spiritual armor in these last days, and will be delivered during the sunday morning session.
below is the manuscript that was provided to me.
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I have just been entrusted with a copy of one of the manuscript talks to be given at this year’s District Convention. The talk is entitled “Wearing Our Full Spiritual Armor in these Last Days,” and will be delivered during the Sunday morning session. Below is the manuscript that was provided to me.
Wearing Our Full Spiritual Armor in These Last Days
Brothers and sisters, how good it is to have spent the last two days showing our love and devotion to Jehovah at this year’s District Convention! We have already enjoyed an abundance of spiritual nourishment provided by our great and loving heavenly father Jehovah through his “faithful and discreet slave,” and there is certainly more to come, which is why we consider it not a duty or an obligation, but a privilege of the utmost importance to be present for the entire program. And isn’t it truly a show of his tremendous love for the people bearing his wonderful name? Just look at some of the precious spiritual insight we have received. (Allow time for brief mindless clapping) But friends, it’s not just having this priceless knowledge and close personal relationship with Jehovah, is it? Turn with me, if you will, to the book of Proverbs, where we read at chapter four and verse 23 “More than all else that is to be guarded, safeguard your heard, for out of it are the sources of life.” Dear friends, protecting our hearts is of the utmost importance in these wicked last days. As the Proverb says, this means our very lives. And not just our present lives with these aging and aching bodies. No, this means the very prize we are all striving for, everlasting life on a Paradise earth, restored to its full beauty and perfect condition.
Turn with me to our theme scripture, please, at Ephesians 6:11, and then verses 14-17. There we read, at verse 11, “put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil.” You see, dear ones, it is Satan the Devil who wants to snatch this reward, our everlasting life in service to Jehovah God. But is it that easy? If Satan walked up to you and said, “give up your everlasting life,” you would refuse, would you not? So he must be crafty. As the Scripture in Ephesians chapter six states, Satan uses “machinations,” or crafty acts. That is why we must wear our spiritual armor in its entirety. Otherwise, Satan will see our weakness and he will waste no time in attacking us. Friends, we cannot take such a dangerous risk while so close to the end of this wicked system of things. What makes up this spiritual armor? Let’s turn our attention to the fourteenth through seventeenth verses. “Stand firm, therefore, with YOUR loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness, and with YOUR feet shod with the equipment of the good news of peace. Above all things, take up the large shield of faith, with which YOU will be able to quench all the wicked one’s burning missiles. Also, accept the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, that is, God’s word.”
Recently there have been articles on these respective pieces of armor, and we encourage you to research them thoroughly. But the faithful slave, whose governing body is responsible for the “feeding at the proper time,” wants us to consider one of these elements more in depth. Every day our minds are bombarded with endless streams of information. There is advertising in all its many forms. And just look at the immorality. Right in front of our very eyes, homosexuality runs rampant. But, perhaps the biggest influence on our minds, and especially the minds of our dear young ones, is the internet. Yes, this is the “information age.” Wouldn’t you agree much of the information this world offers is actually dangerous poison? (Pause for anticipated applause) Indeed it is! The internet has been responsible for the breakup of countless marriages. Husbands have become addicted to pornography. Wives have left their husbands for people that they met in a chat room. And of course, it can become a serious distraction from the more important things. Indeed, we are wise to heed the words of Paul when we ‘buy out the opportune time for ourselves.” Worst of all, though is the spiritual danger to be found by apostates lurking online. Some well-meaning brother or sister could be interested in researching Jehovah’s people in depth and, instead of using the Proclaimers book and Yearbooks, decide to use the internet. Rather than finding wholesome information, they could easily stumble upon deadly traps set by those who have turned to Satan’s system. One may even quickly turn away from such a trap, but damage is alread done. Like spiritual pornography, apostate messages can linger in our minds for months, even years to come. Dear friends, wouldn’t it be better to have never encountered such material in the first place? (Applause)
The “faithful and discreet slave” has taken note of this and has spent much time in prayer to Jehovah and in personal meditation over it, and with the aid of Jehovah’s holy spirit, there is something that they have prepared for your protection, as a helmet, of sorts, in this modern and depraved world. Would you like to know what it is? (Thunderous applause) (Holding item up) “Pay Attention to Yourselves…” by Taking “…Up the Large Shield of Faith…” and Putting “on…” “…the Helmet of Salvation” “Pay Attention to Yourselves…” by Taking “…Up the Large Shield of Faith…” and Putting “on…” “…the Helmet of Salvation” is a new computer program designed to keep you and those in your Christian home safe from the biggest threat to Jehovah’s people today, apostates on the internet. It does so in a way that eliminates even the very risk of encountering this spiritual poison. Much like the Watchtower Library CD-ROM, it can be installed right to your computer, and from that point forward, it will block all internet search results that contain messages contrary to the truth of God’s word. Surely, this is a must for every true Christian as we face these wicked and few last days.
A limited supply of “Pay Attention to Yourselves…” by Taking “…Up the Large Shield of Faith…” and Putting “on…” “…the Helmet of Salvation” is on hand. During the upcoming intermission, we invite the head of each household to make their way to the nearest book counter to pick up a copy for their family.
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What Are You Reading?
by zoiks inok, here's my current list:.
i just finished the greatest show on earth by richard dawkins, and am almost finished crisis of conscience by...some guy.. currently in hand, i have:.
the power of myth, joseph campbell and bill moyers.
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Zoiks,
No Country is pretty good. Also, depending on the type of fiction you like, HP is great. Most of his stuff is short, so even if you don't personally care for it, you wouldn't have to invest much time in it. Worth a shot anyhow
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What Are You Reading?
by zoiks inok, here's my current list:.
i just finished the greatest show on earth by richard dawkins, and am almost finished crisis of conscience by...some guy.. currently in hand, i have:.
the power of myth, joseph campbell and bill moyers.
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Satan Speaks by Anton LaVey
No Country for Old Men by Cormac McCarthy
The current issues of Skeptic and National Geographic