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Your favorite new music album

by transhuman68 in

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if anyone has found a good music album produced in the last 2 or 3 years, put it here.. my nomination: '3 doors down' self-titled album released 2009; and it's hard rock..

have you ever met someone famous?

by rockmehardplace in

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i was thinking of a few celebrities i have met over the years -.

neil diamond, matt damon, terry bradshaw, robert downey jr to name a few..

Cthulhu

I met our disctrict overseer once...and I saw a couple of governing body members at various conventions.

Free Adobe Acrobat Full Version?

by Cthulhu in

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for all the techies.... i have a bit of a project involving the very old literature of the witlesses but i need to get ahold of the full version of adobe acrobat.

i was wondering if anyone who is a cheapskate like me might know where i could obtain this for free.

perhaps i'm just thinking wishfully..

I have a bit of a project involving the very old literature of the Witlesses BUT I need to get ahold of the full version of Adobe Acrobat. I was wondering if anyone who is a cheapskate like me might know where I could obtain this for free. Perhaps I'm just thinking wishfully.

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Time

by avatar in

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time slowly kills all hope, health and love.. all a murdered by the hands of time..

Cthulhu

"Time is on my side." Rolling Stones

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Got to Mess with some Witlesses on my Vacation

by Cthulhu in

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so this last week i went to visit a very dear friend of mine about 21 hours away.

she is one of the two people i have had a major hand in helping to see the bullshit of the watchtower religion.

in any case, as we were driving through a neighborhood, guess what we saw.

Cthulhu

Sweet's comments helped to solidify a bit of a realization I had a while back. Say anything to one of those people, if they are good and tight with the organization, and it doesn't make a lick of difference. The JW religion is like one big damn role playing game. People do D&D, watch star wars, and then others play Jehovah's Witnesses. It's like the fantasy world of any epic writer like Robert Jordan, where the "good guys" have some sure fire organization, but there's always some dreaded warlock hiding in their ranks waiting for the right moment to unleash his powers at headquarters. What a joke. Apostates sitting there in New York writing incorrect and dangerous spiritual food that actually gets published without anyone on the GB noticing or without JESUS CHRIST THE LEADER OF THE CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION HIMSELF putting a stop to it. A joke, a farce, and a deperate grasping at straws. Give me a break.

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When Did You KNOW?

by Cthulhu in

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i and another semi former witless (he's inactive and doesn't actually believe any of the bs) were having a conversation over some beer last night and watchtower land came up into discussion.

i told him that at some point, long before i actually stopped being physically present at the meetings i just knew that i wouldn't be a dub forever.

i remember the fact that i did not even want to admit this to myself and i spent a long long time denying the thought and trying to reestablish "the truth" in my mind.

Cthulhu

I and another semi former Witless (he's inactive and doesn't actually believe any of the bs) were having a conversation over some beer last night and Watchtower Land came up into discussion. I told him that at some point, long before I actually stopped being physically present at the meetings I just KNEW that I wouldn't be a dub forever. I remember the fact that I did not even want to admit this to myself and I spent a long long time denying the thought and trying to reestablish "the truth" in my mind. Yet, in the back of my mind always stayed that thought, that knowledge, that someday I wouldn't be able to hold on any longer. He told me that he had the same experience SEVEN YEARS before he finally stopped going.

So I noticed that this may be a pattern. I'm curious, how many of you had a similar experience AND how long did it take you to leave after you had that moment of truth, that sudden shocking realization?

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Got to Mess with some Witlesses on my Vacation

by Cthulhu in

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so this last week i went to visit a very dear friend of mine about 21 hours away.

she is one of the two people i have had a major hand in helping to see the bullshit of the watchtower religion.

in any case, as we were driving through a neighborhood, guess what we saw.

Cthulhu

So this last week I went to visit a very dear friend of mine about 21 hours away. She is one of the two people I have had a major hand in helping to see the bullshit of the Watchtower religion. In any case, as we were driving through a neighborhood, guess what we saw. Yep. Two brothers going door to door. I looked over at her and said "do you want to mess with them?" "Did you have to ask?" So I pulled over and waited for them to finish leaving some of their propaganda in the screen door of a not at home, we got out of the car, and I shouted at them from across the street "Hey, are you Jehovah's Witnesses?" When they responded in the affirmative I waved them over, telling them that I had a question for them. They were beaming like gee-ho-bah himself had pushed them in my direction. A new study for SURE! I told them that I'd come across a red book of theirs that discusses Revelation in some considerable depth. I mentioned that I was a history buff and that, though I disagree with how they came to the 1914 date due to the fact that they are the only ones that say 607 as opposed to 586/7, I understand how they come to that date. BUT, I let them know I didn't quite understand the importance of 1919. The lead brother told me that it had to do with a greater fulfilment of the Jewish release from Babylon, and that in 1919 the brothers abandoned what false religious customs and beliefs that they still had. I raised an eyebrow and asked when it was that Jehovah's Witnesses stopped celebrating Christmas, knowing full well that it was after 1919. "Well, don't you think we should consider one question at a time?" he asked. Yeah, sure, whatever. He went on to explain that "Witnesses look to the Bible for their guidance, and Proverbs 18:4 says that things will become clearer as the end of this system of things draws near." "Oh really? Didn't you mean to say Proverbs 4:8?" The dumb fucking bastard had to admit in front of his precious little service buddy that, yes, I the one inquiring knew more about their scriptures than they did. He looked sooooo ashamed. I carried it on a little longer. My dear friend was, at several points, almost unable to contain her laughter at the futility of their attempts to "reason with me." Finally, it grew a bit cold and, mainly for the sake of my friend, I suggested we part ways with one another so she could get in the car and out of the wind. As they walked back to their car I rolled down the window and made it clear that they need not count their time spent talking to us.

Nothing like ruining an otherwise "good day out in service" for a couple of those friggin idiots.

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Mormons and rudeness

by John Doe in

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what is it with these people?

i left my apartment a few minutes ago to go pick up my check, you know, on a mission.

these two spiffy suited young pricks spot me from 200 feet away, and nearly trip over themselves running up to me.

Cthulhu

When still a Witless I actually found out where the local Mormon missionaries lived. you can probably guess what that meant. I talked to a few dozen different young men. Most dubs felt that it was a waste of time, and it was. What it basically came down to were a series of hours long discussions where we took turns trying to shatter one anothers respective faiths under the guise of being interested in what the other one had to say. While it was a lot of time spent, it did help me to see where they were coming from. That lead to me seeing that a lot of my own arguments were as foundationless as thiers and that was, in the long run, a key point that remained in my mind and helped me to get out of the dubs. My points had no foundation either.

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Finished Ex-Jehovah's Witness Survey (Please fill out for help with project)...

by Tuesday in

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hey everyone!.

) did you feel the religion was a cult before leaving?:.

) do you feel the religion is a cult now after leaving?:.

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A.) Name: (First name only please)

Dennis

B.) Gender

Male

C.) Age:

19-24

Questions:

1.) How were you introduced to Jehovah's Witnesses:

Converted early in life (Teenage or earlier)

2.) How did you leave the religion:

Faded Away (slowly missed more and more meetings until you stopped going completely) followed by Disassociation

3.) What Age did you leave?

19-24

4.) Were you Baptized

Yes

5.) What General reason did you leave the religion:

Didn’t believe the teachings, not allowed to question the teachings, disagreed with stance on social issues, didn’t agree with things said in the magazines or on the platform.

Felt the elders or organization abused their power, felt they took presidence over God, Problem with the way they organized the religion

Left because of the people (saw too much hypocracy, too much gossip, passed over for some leadership role, was treated badly by those in the hall.)

Depressed, Didn’t feel like doing all the things required of you, felt oppressed by the rules.

6.) How did you feel about the doctrine before leaving:

Believed there we more things wrong than right

7.) Did your feelings about the doctrine effect the way you left?

Yes

8.) If you were disfellowshipped for sin, did your feelings on the doctrine effect you sinning in the first place?

N/A

9.) Did you feel the religion was a cult before leaving?:

I felt the religion was definitely a cult

10.) Did you research the religion's teachings after leaving?

Yes

11.) What are your feelings on the doctrine of the religion since leaving?

They might have one or two teachings that are still right if I strain hard enough to think about it

12.) How do you feel about the organization since leaving?:

They are evil

13.) How do you feel about the people since leaving?:

They are no different than any other religion, they have good and bad

14.) Do you feel the religion is a cult now after leaving?:

Yes they are definitely a cult

15.) What is your opinion on the intelligence of those still in the Organization? :

They're not very intelligent

16.) Are you happier now that you’re gone?

I think every day about how happy I am to have left

17.) Do you feel that other than the fact you left the Jehovah’s Witnesses that they would agree with how you live your life?

They would not agree with anything I do now

18.) If a Jehovah’s Witness approaches you to discuss their religion you’re more than likely do the following:

Shatter their faith, what else would I do?

19.) Would you consider returning?

When hell freezes over

20.) How do you feel about discussing your time as a Jehovah's Witness?:

I bring it up occasionally

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Borg cubes will reach us in approximately 20 hours

by sd-7 in

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borg message incoming.

on screen.. borg: blizzard is irrelevant.

even though this is a judicial matter, it's really a shepherding call.

Cthulhu

Hey,

I've not been in exactly your situation, so I won't pretend by saying that I understand. But I have been in a situation and I do understand that it is not pleasant and it is not easy. I wish there was some magical cure all that would make it all less hellish, and from your words I know that it is. Please know that we are all here for you. It sounds like you still believe or want to believe in something. I for one do not, but there is a verse that I recall helped me a lot in times where I was having difficulty holding on. I believe it was 1 Corinthians 10:13 (maybe 31). In a nutshell it said that a person can handle whatever god allows them to go through, because he wouldn't allow them to go through something that is too much. I don't know if that helps, but I hope it does. Like I said, we're here to help.