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Butterflyleia85
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Hi Friends! An Update! I'm a mommy now! :)
by Butterflyleia85 ini know i havent been on here forever!
i still am very happy and researching and reading all i can to keep me from going back.. i want what is best for my baby boy, ian.
he is so precious to me!!.
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Hi Friends! An Update! I'm a mommy now! :)
by Butterflyleia85 ini know i havent been on here forever!
i still am very happy and researching and reading all i can to keep me from going back.. i want what is best for my baby boy, ian.
he is so precious to me!!.
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I know I havent been on here forever! I still am very happy and researching and reading all I can to keep me from going back.
I want what is best for my baby boy, Ian. He is so precious to me!!
I hope everyone is doing well!
I miss hearing from or reading posts by: bluecanary, yknot, PSacramento, OUTLAW, Mr. and Mrs. flipper, isaacaustin, Lady Lee, mouthy, Chalam, udercover, OnTheWayOut, AllTimeJeff, snowbird, Casper, BabaYaga, dudeson, donuthole, ziddina, Mary, sd-7, babygirl30, ralphy1991, and WTWizard... and a few others.
I will be on here when I can.
I still struggle getting family to snap out of the Jehovah's Witnesses but I do have family who defiantly are showing love more then anything even over Jehovah's Witness rules! It took a long time but I am happy where my life is going.
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Hahaha
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2011-2012 Let God's Kingdom Come DC starts this WEEKEND
by yknot inwell it is that time of year again....... dc season!!!!!
so any of yall going to be in brooklyn, queens, jersey city or oklahoma city this weekend?
maybe brooklyn, queens, jersey city, portland (or & me), green bay, west palm beach, sacramento, long beach, bakersfield or san diego weekend of 5/27.
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Outlaw your so funny!!
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Anyone that didn't go... you didn't miss much the same talk and everything... I missed last year I think and when I went this year I swear I could have quoted the talk word for word!
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Hi everyone I havent been on here for awhile cause I have a month old I been taking care off (he is crying now as we speak)
But I WENT to the Memorial and took my new born son (month old)!
I went because my sister... I never plan on going back but I do want to show a jester for my sister of kindness and respect. (one day I'd love to join a good church and invite her and see if she'd go!hahaha yeah right like she go!!)
But I showed her that kind jester because she is talking to me again.. I have my son to thank for that! But the day before she spent all day visiting with me (she is a ag. Pioneer) and I'm disfellowshiped! I am so happy she is starting to show more love from her heart then the cold hearted side of JWs.
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Hello there Medina!
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What makes people ok with shunning?
by Butterflyleia85 init almost seems easy to some... or like a weird funny feeling like they are doing something wrong if they go against something inside of them and actually speak to marked (people they are told to shun) people.. (sorry to be bias in this but only exaggerate circumstances to make my point).
jehovah's witness for one are known to shun disfellowshipped members.. but also there is:.
popular kids at schools who shun unpopular kids at school.. rich people who ignore poor people.. some whites that are still racest shun black and vs.. some older proper/religious ones with high moral standards shunn or at least look down one the rebels.. ...seriously does it make life easier for them or something?.
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Thanks for everyone's comments. I agree with alot here it's just easier for them. (sigh)
Making them change...
Yeah being in a different envoriment or facing life on the other side (as I did when I became DFed).
When is it ok...
Personally I never felt it was ok but I have to admit it's hard to stand up and speak up for someone else especially a stranger at times especially if your shy or don't feel like it's your place... I'm no hero but what would get me to really stand up or speak out is if it happened to my close family or close friends. But I honestly and regretfully say I have past many homeless people ignoring them down town, have ignored in high school chances to stand up for a nerd getting picked on, listen to my old relitives say rude things behind a person's back and not say anything... and sadly shunned my own aunt because she was Dfed when I grow up, til I was in my 20's and started rebeling.
I can now say though when I hit 20 my personality changed! I stood up to stangers for stangers. I speak up when someone feels like they don't have the voice or heart too. I no long will talerate getting walked on or let others get walked on. It's in me now. I just hope I don't seem to be intervining to much... but because of all those years of reget I felt the need to make up for it.
That was my point of this topic. I wanted to see verity of opinions on this topic to make sure I get a balanced view of this.
I also one day hope I can help others either stand up for themselves or have the confidance to stand up for others.
All those who think it's wrong to shun but do it... why do it? what's holding you back from talking to that person? Maybe it's not them but you... maybe they are wrong but think they are right... how would they no if they aren't being communicated too or perswayed... better word I guess is explained to. See I made alot of mistakes in my life but I am an understanding person and I like to do what's right... But if I feel I'm doing right I'm going to keep doing it... without an explination to why, then I don't see the importance of or the right to change. I am open minded and a person who welcomes idea's to develop my reasonings in this life. Does shunning really solve anything? Or does it cause more greef and sorrow even anger? Isn't this actually a rude and un-neighborly act as some mentioned here? Isn't this what we call irretating our childern? Or disrespecting our parents?
Think about it! (To those that get it, man it's like talking to a brick wall... as I type this out I realize this is what I wish I could say to those shunning but how do you get a deaf person to hear you... it just seems sometimes unrealistic or a dream, that one day the person in a coma will wake up... if it happens it happens... but don't hold your breath)
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What makes people ok with shunning?
by Butterflyleia85 init almost seems easy to some... or like a weird funny feeling like they are doing something wrong if they go against something inside of them and actually speak to marked (people they are told to shun) people.. (sorry to be bias in this but only exaggerate circumstances to make my point).
jehovah's witness for one are known to shun disfellowshipped members.. but also there is:.
popular kids at schools who shun unpopular kids at school.. rich people who ignore poor people.. some whites that are still racest shun black and vs.. some older proper/religious ones with high moral standards shunn or at least look down one the rebels.. ...seriously does it make life easier for them or something?.
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Butterflyleia85
It almost seems easy to some... or like a weird funny feeling like they are doing something wrong if they go against something inside of them and actually speak to marked (people they are told to shun) people.
(sorry to be bias in this but only exaggerate circumstances to make my point)
Jehovah's witness for one are known to shun disfellowshipped members.
But also there is:
Popular kids at schools who shun unpopular kids at school.
Rich people who ignore poor people.
Some Whites that are still racest shun black and vs.
Some older proper/religious ones with high moral standards shunn or at least look down one the rebels.
...Seriously does it make life easier for them or something?
What would make them change?
And most importantly when is it right to shun or is it really right at all?
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What is "the Kingdom"?
by Darth Eowyn ini have been lurking for a couple of months and decided to join because i wanted to get further information.. i am not a jw, ex jw, or even considering becoming a jw.
i am a fairly devout, practicing catholic.
two weeks ago, a couple of jw publishers stopped by to discuss their schtick.
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Sigh....my JW friends were a no show. They were supposed to come over at 10:30. It is now almost 11:15 and nada. It's almost like they didn't want to discuss my topics....
Well that's flacky of them! Geez...