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Living as a gay Jehovah's Witness - My Story!

by TimothyT in

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it wasn't a feeling of rebellion; it was the feeling of love and care i desired.

Butterflyleia85

OMG I love you Timmy Turner! Props to you and coming out!

My best friend... I wish he could see your story. It was about three or four years since I see him! He ran off with this guy and I hadn't heard from him since, somewhere in Canada! I miss him so much and worry about him because all he kept saying is he wishes he could end his life or wish there was a place God put all the gays on an Island where we could live happy among ourselves. We would party to hard... and well we would drink our miseries away.

We both got Dfed together, him for coming out and not feeling like he could be him and live this other life as a JW and I well I had this boyfriend that was already Dfed and commented a sin with, that guy was a dooshbag and well ran when he heard me say I loved him... My best friend was there for me and I was there for him in that we just hung out all the time because being DFed was lonely. But we eventually found our own friends and hung out less and less. I just felt bad... I couldn't fathom how it was for him to have these feelings. It eventually came down to well do I live alone or get back in and have my family again. What the Elders told me was I couldn’t hang out with Jordan and would show me this scripture that what he was feeling was wrong to act on. It was like they only saw black and white... and I mentioned it to Jordan trying to figure this out. I believed him more that what he was feeling was a part of him not just an ordinary “feeling”. I was just as confused and mad about making choices.

I got reinstated and that is when he stopped talking to me... he said felt it was better for me. I cried I felt I was leaving the best friend ever… we grew up together and it was hard.

Well I got Dfed again this time with intentions of not going back. And will I lost contact with him. I done tons more research on the subject and have more understanding and found that there are more and more like him… and you!!

It makes me happy!

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If You Heard An Acquaintance Was Considering A Study With JWs Would You Get Involved At All?

by minimus in

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would you express an opinion to that person studying with the witnesses or would you keep quiet?.

if you did say something, what would it be?.

Butterflyleia85

I would say I use to be a JW.

That's it if he has questions... I will answer. I wouldn't over load him with hate about it.

My nurse saw on my record that I was a Jehovah Witness about the blood (forgot all about that) and she said her mom is a Jehovah Witness. Obviously that ment she wasn't... I told her I wasn't anymore and she said she understood.

If it was a dear friend or like my sister in law who married a raised JW... discited to study and I saw her all the time. Then I might caution her a bet. Not enough for her to bring it up with the JW, but that she would reason for her self. "Ah ok, um I think I'm good looking else where"

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Is it possible to completely forget the JW experience.

by mankkeli in

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i am wondering if it is possible to completely forget our jw experience after a long time, and live life as if we have never been one.

no memories, no bitterness, no meeting up with ex-members, nothing connected to the jws in our feelings.. is this ever possible, could it ever happen, and how long possibly..

Butterflyleia85

Sometime!! Most the time... but really it took me two years and moving away from my home town. Marrying a wonderful guy and starting a family of my own that did it! Obviously I'm on this website so no not totally. But it is alot easier and I got use to our (my mom and dad's family) arrangement... no I don't talk to the all the time I use to and no we don't bring up religion. But yes we love each other and everything is ok! :)

I'm really happy with the way my life is going!

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Former JW Elder who sexually abused teenager gets only 6 months

by behemot in

david nelson, a former elder at the madison park congregation jehovah's witness church in phoenix, admitted to authorities that he sexually abused a teenage boy on several occasions in the early 1980s.. with a confession from the suspect, it seems like a slam-dunk case but not for the maricopa county attorney's office, which brokered a slap-on-the-wrist plea agreement that nelson signed, the terms of which landed him in county jail for six months.

in addition to the jail time, nelson was sentenced to three years' probation and must register as a sex offender.. when asked for an explanation of the seemingly light sentence, mcao spokesman jerry cobb told new times that among other reasons the victim in the case (whom we'll refer to as kevin) was okay with the plea agreement.that wasn't true.

in fact, after learning nelson had pleaded guilty to two reduced charges not the six class-two felonies on which he was initially indicted kevin tried to commit suicide by shooting himself in the head just four days after nelson pleaded guilty.. "thirty-one days [kevin] had a tube down his throat [in the hospital following the march 12 suicide attempt].

Butterflyleia85

That's horrable!!

But I believe anything: My dad went to jail for only 6 months on good behavior, for sexually abusing me but because he confest he never got disfellowshipment. He just will never be able to become an elder they said. It was back in the 1980's and in Indiana.

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Freethinkers...Need help?

by Butterflyleia85 in

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It’s been two years now disfellowshipped. I have changed in thinking diresticly. I also am amazed on how much reading of done in the past year or so. I’m in this book now called, “Raising Freethinkers – A Practical Guide for Parenting Beyond Belief.” It’s by Dale McGowan, and other authors.

It’s funny as I was reading I was thinking how this was helping me with what to do for my child but helping me with me! The book helps parents discover practical and effective ways to:

-Help children achieve religious literacy without indoctrination

-Explore life’s meaning and purpose

-Promote a healthy perspective on sexuality and body image

-Encourage ravenous curiosity

-Help kids come to terms with death and loss

-Find and create community

So far I’m impressed. My question is: Am I a “freethinker” if I still believe in a creator like God? Still want to show apressiation to God as well as others? It just seemed to me that the author here is agaist religion period, he kinda uses suggestive wording that religion is a hinderance to our thinking.

But I do apressiate his explaination here:

“…Most of us were raised in homes that were religious to some degree and many carry remnants of these fearful ideologies into our own parenting. Whether we are religious or nonreligious, our attitudes toward questioning and moral development too often include some undercurrent of anxitety and mistrust, the unspoken feeling that our primary job as parents is to stave off a bubbling depravity that lurks just below the surface of our children.

In this chapter, I hope to make the case that this trembling view of human nature is siply not borne out by the best of our knowledge. We will focus on the moment of the question, a moment that is the foundation of freethought parenting, encouraging an approach that holds no question unaskable and no thought unthinkable.”

In all regards I still hold on to the safety code I believe in God because I see the good in his creation and his spirit that is so misterious… Also I fear that I would make him sad and look bad to him. (Pondering Psalm 14:1)

I have strong tides to listening to the scriptures… but a change in heart of holding onto the words literally or in action. Because it is hard to believe God would hate man for his differences and distroy them for their abilities He gave them. God will always be like a father to me… but I will always be the unque me.

Is this wrong?

P.S. I thought of you guys, Jehovah-Witness.net members, when I came across these quotes.

“There are those whose lives affect all others around them. Quietly touching one heart, who in turn, touches another. Reaching out to ends further than they would ever know." - William Bradfield

“Every exit is an entry somewhere else. Remember that Columbus was looking for India when he found America." - Sir Tom Stoppard (born 1937); British playwright

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