I love the old authors too, I read all of Asimov's stuff. Orson Scott Card's early stuff was great but when he converted or got back into his Mormonism his books got really boring in my opinion. Vernor Vinge is good too.
Ada
so i have my daughter (a 33 year old choreographer turned psych student) reading rah.
so far she's read double star and tunnel in the sky, she stayed up all night friday night finishing tunnel.
she's working on the moon is a harsh mistress now.
I love the old authors too, I read all of Asimov's stuff. Orson Scott Card's early stuff was great but when he converted or got back into his Mormonism his books got really boring in my opinion. Vernor Vinge is good too.
Ada
so i have my daughter (a 33 year old choreographer turned psych student) reading rah.
so far she's read double star and tunnel in the sky, she stayed up all night friday night finishing tunnel.
she's working on the moon is a harsh mistress now.
Here's the scoop on Lamentations from over at amazon.com:
In his first novel, a vividly imagined sf-fantasy hybrid set in a distant, post-apocalyptic future, Scholes, already highly praised in the speculative-fiction community for his dazzlingly inventive short fiction, turns his talent up a notch. When an ancient weapon destroys Windwir, the Named Lands’ greatest city and repository of knowledge, the only surviving member of the city’s Androfrancine order is the metallic android Isaak. Rudolfo, lord of the Ninefold Forest Houses, finds Isaak surprisingly intact in the Windwir’s smoldering ruins and guilt-ridden over his role in the city’s downfall. Yet Rudolfo quickly begins to suspect that Sethbert, overseer of the neighboring Entrolusian City States, is the real culprit and starts girding his Gypsy Scouts for battle. So begins Scholes’ Psalms of Isaak, a projected five-volume saga containing all the ingredients of a first-rate epic—magic, arcane science, and a handful of compelling protagonists. By the end of the novel, the reader is caring deeply about the characters and looking forward with burning anticipation to the sequels. --Carl Hays --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.
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Praise for Lamentation
“This is the golden age of fantasy, with a dozen masters doing their best work. Then along comes Ken Scholes, with his amazing clarity, power, and invention, and shows us all how it's done. No more ponderous plotting - Scholes barely gives us time to breathe. Yet he creates vivid characters, a world thick with detail, and wonders we've never seen before. I wish my first novel had been this good. I wish all five volumes of this series were already published so I could read them now.”-- Orson Scott Card
“Ken Scholes is a hot new voice to watch for on the interesting frontier between science fiction and fantasy. He has a keen eye for action and a keen ear for the sounds of the human heart. Grab on now, because he's going places.”--Harry Turtledove
"As intricate as a Whymer maze, Ken Scholes' Lamentation will keep the reader up until the wee hours, winding through this splendid labyrinth. Bravo!"--Dennis L. McKiernan, bestselling author of the Mithgar series
"Ken Scholes's Lamentation is an iconic SF story cloaked in fantasy, drawing raw material from classics such as A Canticle for Liebowitz and Earth Abides, but forging something new, with colorful characters, compelling scenes, and unfolding miracles."--Kevin J. Anderson, bestselling co-author of Sandworms of Dune
"Ken Scholes' Lamentation is a whale of a first novel, set in a world where technological magic has come and gone, and come again, where organized religion has attempted to recover and restore lost knowledge, if with a certain amount of censorship, where no one is quite what they seem, and where parental ambitions for offspring are filled with deep love and sacrifices, along with double double-crosses, conflicting motives, and tragedy."--L.E. Modesitt, Jr.
“The tone of [Lamentation] is precise and just about exactly right: I was engaged from the opening page, stayed up lat
so i have my daughter (a 33 year old choreographer turned psych student) reading rah.
so far she's read double star and tunnel in the sky, she stayed up all night friday night finishing tunnel.
she's working on the moon is a harsh mistress now.
Yes, Ken Scholes is a wonderful author. He has two books out right now and his next one comes out in a few months. The first one is called Lamentation and the next one is Canticle. I've read both and highly recommend them. The next one is Antiphon, which I have read the advanced copy, so I'll see how they edit it when it goes to press and I buy my copy.
For hard science fiction I'm a fan of Gregory Benford and Charles Sheffield. I used to not enjoy the fantasy genre very much, seemed like everyone was trying to copy Tolkien. But now there are some great authors out there. I like Jay Lake's work also, and I'm a huge fan of Patricia McKillip, some of what she does is like the old fairy tales but with a more adult twist, but my favorite is her Riddle Master of Hed series.
There are really so many out there its hard to pick. For chuckles and grins you can't beat Terry Pratchett, and if you like it a bit more dark, Neil Gaiman is wonderful.
Ada
anybody on here cincinnati bengals fans?
even better are you from the nati?
i am ready for some football today ....and beer.
Another Steelers fan here, sad to say. Injuries are killing us this year.
could someone please point me in the direction of some threads disproving the chronology for the 1914 date?
my brother needs this for a discussion he's having with a jw.. thanks,.
ada.
Black Sheep, any chance of you posting your list? I don't want a JW apologist confusing the matter here.
Thanks,
Ada
it seems the watchtower leaders believe that if you were to think about leaving the organization (and listen to "apostates") that you must have a place to go in return.
they feel you must have something, if you were to not accept the organization.
you need hope and belief in something.
Bumper sticker I saw recently:
Good girls go to heaven. Bad girls go everywhere!
There you go.
Ada
well, let me tell you about my experience in dating a married woman about a year ago or so, i was dating a married woman, she did not tell me that she was married, but i found about it and i told her that i know that she is married, then she decided not to see me.
she is really hot.
well recently, i learned that my recent date is actually married, but she is also really hot, should i keep my mouth shut not telling her that i know that she is married, so i can keep the relationship with her, i would not mind because i really like her..
Are you kidding me?
don't worry about it. That's her problem, not yours.
Irate husbands are not something to be taken lightly. Not to mention that you need to be thinking beyond your gratification and understand that this woman is cheating on someone that she took vows with. Look, I'm not a prude, but find someone not married to have sex with. I know the added danger can add a little spice, but it can also get you shot.
Ada
to spontaniety in the organization?
maybe that's an oxymoron, or a contradiction of terms.
i'm referring to public and other talks being filled with quips, good humor, tidbits of wisdom, etc.
There was a time when independant research was allowed. I remember our libraries being full of literature like Strong's Concordance, we had a King James version and a NIV to compare verses, there was another one that had the greek and english both so that you could see the translated word. In studies we often times researched things at the library in order to prove a point. It was allowed to go outside the literature when commenting at the meetings. We had a sister at our hall very much like Blondie. Very intelligent and well prepared with outside resources.
But in my lifetime I saw that change, and I haven't been associated with JWs for 18 years. By the time I left it was very much frowned upon if you "went beyond" the things you were taught. I can only imagine how it must be today.
Very sad, really.
Ada
retired husband:.
after i retired, my wife insisted that i accompany her on her trips to target.
unfortunately, like most men, i found shopping boring and preferred to get in and get out.
You got me too, I clicked on this to see if you got married!
Very funny.
just wondering if anyone has experience with this or knows an x-jw who has been diagnosed.
after years of trying to un-do everything through countless therapies, it appears this has been the problem all along.
i sit with my new psychologist, an expert in dissociative disorders, and she has all the jw lingo down, which tells me she's treated other x-jw's.
Writer, thanks for being brave enough to come here and talk about your experience. I cannot imagine your experience, but I did have my own little piece of hell, and I dealt with it in my own way. I don' t know the terminology for any of it, I seem to have been able to compartmentalize it without developing another distinct personality. Sort of like hiding in a closet and watching it happen to someone else almost like an out of body experience. I know that the therapy will help you heal and integrate this. It sounds like you are a very intelligent individual. I wish you all the best in your road to recovery.
Ada