I'd become a regular pioneer, if God will allow me 10 minutes with Glen Beck in a room, and no consequences for my actions. I'd love to leave him hanging by his shoe strings off a ceiling fan. I'm already past the moral hangup with Beck, I'd have no problem strangling that dude. Just a phony, rotton, hypocrtical, pussy made coward. God, I hate that dude. Hate his mother for not having an abortion.
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Glenn Beck
by will_the_apostate indo j dubs like glenn beck?
they seem like peas in a pod to me.
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Do You Still Believe the Bible is God's Word?
by cantleave inif so why???.
btw - i just see it as collection of old books written by men who reflected the thinking and knowledge of their time?.
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miseryloveselders
No, not in it's current form. I feel like you, its a collection of old history books related to semetic history, a collection of letters to various congregations from the apostles, and one apocalyptic letter. I believe within all of those writings, one can get a grasp, although not perfect, but still some grasp on what God expects of people.
The whole "Word of God", or "God's Word" is backwards to me. It's the reason to me why organized religion is so backwards. One example is the recent thread on "Not forsaking the gathering of yourselves." That line was just one part of Paul's letter to the Hebrews. Let the WTS tell it, it was a command from God, which is nonsense. Another example I think of is 1 Cor 7:12, where Paul says, "but to the rest, I, not the lord, say." Paul said quite clearly, it was him doing the talking and the directing. It was his view, not Christs, or God's, but rather again, Paul's. Let the WTS tell it, it was a command from God again. Again, I think one can grasp a lot about God through those ancient writings. However to attribute all of those writings as God's word is insulting to God I believe.
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Boxing or MMA...
by peacedog inif you have more than a passing interest in either of these two sports, you might be interested in ufc 118 tomorrow night.
mma legend randy couture fights heavyweight boxing champion james toney in the co-main event.. my money is on couture.
personally i think james toney is delusional for stepping into the octagon as a boxer, particularly against a guy with a strong wrestling background like couture.
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miseryloveselders
I don't see Toney winning this fight, or even lasting three rounds. I'm thinkin submission by the second round. At the same time though, don't count Toney out. He's been a heluva fighter for a long time. He's experienced and hard headed, with a tough chin. If Couture goes head up with him, he'll get knocked out.
Personally I think this fight is fraudulent. It's a hustle to get people excited about boxing which isn't as hot as it used to be. Also a fair tradeoff with MMA which is popular but still not as popular as boxing was in its prime. Publicity stunt written all over it.
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Bethel Rules
by brotherdan inthis was brought up just in passing on another thread.
but i wanted to see if there are any bethelites or ex bethelites that remember some of the crazy rules we had to follow when we were there..
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Wow darth frosty, that brought back memories. Remember having to read all the life stories of each of the GB members? And I couldn't hang a sports star poster on my wall growing up because it was "idolatry".Reading through the outline really shows the control that they establish over you from day 1!
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, wait a minute.......... At Bethel you have to read the life stories of each GB member? You're joking right?
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'Do not forsake the gathering of yourselves together...'
by bez injust wondering what some of your opinions are on this scripture???
its one that has been thrown at me time and time again when i talk of my decision to leave the 'organization of god'.
as i would not be gathering together with his people and therefore forsaking the gathering of myself together..... (if ya get me!)..
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I always hated how they take Paul's letters, and then claim that his words are commands from God. It's one of the reasons I don't believe that the Bible is the complete word of God. It contains some history on the Israelites, some history on Jesus, and several letters by the apostles to various people and congregations. I've heard ones from the platform say that, "not forsaking the gathering of yourselves", was a direct command from God, which is proposterous. Paul told the Hebrews to continue encouraging one nother, and communicate with one another, organize things with one another. I'm certain he didn't mean attending the Congregation Book Study, the public talk, the WT study, the Service Meeting, the Theocratic Ministry School, 2-3 Circuit Assemblies, and a 3 day district convention 3-4 hours from you home. Not to forget, special talks given when Bethel heavies visit, or when the CO/DO visit. If Paul were around today, the Congregation Picnic would be the only thing he would agree is in harmony with what he wrote to the Hebrews regarding gathering together.
Those old men in NY take the simplest scriptures and turn them into direct commands from God.
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Bethel Rules
by brotherdan inthis was brought up just in passing on another thread.
but i wanted to see if there are any bethelites or ex bethelites that remember some of the crazy rules we had to follow when we were there..
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miseryloveselders
This thread has already reached classic status in my opinion. I'm not the type of guy that does well under pressure or somebody on a power trip telling me what to do. One of those housekeepers going through my stuff, I would have smacked flames out of her. The table head directs which way the food is passed? GTFOH!! LOL No licking your fingers with BBQ Ribs? C'mon. I would have been diplomatic and wiped my hands clean with a paper towel, and then look at the table head as I licked the paper towel. Just for emphasis, I would have licked it real perverted so that he would think I'm a homo making a pass at him. You have to go to every morning worship? I get up when I want to get up. No shirts with logos? What about the crocodile logo on polo shirts?
What a bunch of power tripping cowards. If those planes would have hit Bethel on 9/11, I wouldn't have shed one tear.
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J.R.Brown
by Mall Cop init's been very quiet concerning him.
anyone have an update, information on his where-abouts and current position?
he use to be the spoke-person for the society in the news media etc.
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Cult Classic, you just opened a entire can of worms with that last post!! You've got to elaborate on that!! What do you mean when you say racism is definately acknowledged at Bethel, and that there are "serious racial problems at Bethel?!?!?!?
You've got to elaborate on this!!!
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J.R.Brown
by Mall Cop init's been very quiet concerning him.
anyone have an update, information on his where-abouts and current position?
he use to be the spoke-person for the society in the news media etc.
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Hey Cult Classic, I appreciate both your and Sola's posts. I sometimes may get a little trigger happy with criticizing my own when they're successful. I can't help but to question Herd when I see all those old white faces on the GB and Writing Department. Especially being a born-in, I know how people get to the positions they have in this organization, and its generally speaking not self respecting. At the same time I can't paint everybody with the same brush, but I can't but help and think dudes like JR Brown and Herd are some brown nosing house negros if there ever was some. If I'm wrong, then I'll apologize. As it stands now though, they don't look good in my eyes.
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J.R.Brown
by Mall Cop init's been very quiet concerning him.
anyone have an update, information on his where-abouts and current position?
he use to be the spoke-person for the society in the news media etc.
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Lost Generation, thank you for posting that. I sincerely thank you for posting that. That lying rotten bastard. Wow I'm at a loss for words. What a rotten dude. To make the claim that, they're in no way above anybody else............wow.
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The fundamental flaw with the WTBTS as "God's Organization"?
by Essan inthere are countless issues that people have with the society and which together have led to many people realizing that it is not what it claims and pretends to be.
these include things like the secret un affiliation, contradictory and hypocritical stances, (malawi vs mexico vs un/ngo), the ever changing blood policy and ever changing doctrine, failed predictions for armageddon etc, etc, etc.. but what is the consensus about what the fundamental flaw is?.
what i mean is, many jw's hear about these various issues and manage to make endless excuses for them, even though this involves gross hypocrisy and excusing the society for things they would never excuse in other religions and which the society itself has ruthless condemned other religions for over almost 100 years.
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miseryloveselders
Alice doesn't even know who she makes herself of to be. One day its' Rachel from Houston, next day its Alice the Cigarette smoking defender of all things JW, or Confearacy. I'm making a spreadsheet at work right now related to Alice's and Consfearacy's posts to compare similarities and differences. My goal is to predict when she'll show up, and as whom. Kinda like a weatherman, but in this case, I'm studying a split personality nutcase from Houston.