http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2010/10/07/teenager-shot-over-sagging-pants/.
uh huh.. syl.
Bell bottoms came and went, afro's, white boy perms, togas, tunics, dressing like a beatnik. Fashion changes. And even if it didn't, so what?
Ya know the funny thing about that is all of those things came back with maybe the exception of white boy perms. Educate me though, whats a tunic and a toga?
http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2010/10/07/teenager-shot-over-sagging-pants/.
uh huh.. syl.
Ya know what... maybe it won't go away. Just like blue jeans haven't. The one time scourge of parents and teachers everywhere are now one of the most common pieces of clothing.
I doubt that the super sagging look will catch on with the general public though. It's actually work to have to wear em like that. Most people, after a certain age anyway, are going for comfort over fashion.
Despite it's origins, it's just a fashion statement. That statement might be, "Hey look at me, I'm an idiot", but other than wearing their stupidity on their knees, it's not really hurting anything other than their reputation. And if they don't care about what people think, then I don't care to try to convince them otherwise. And making laws isn't going to do anything. It'll only make matters worse in that you're denying them self-expression and they'll find other ways to express their angst and rage. I'd rather they wear stupid clothes than destroy property or resort to violence.
I think too after they reach a certain age, it stops. Something I've noticed too though, is that a lot of youth are going for a preppier look. I was talking to a dude thats my age, and went to a rival high school. We were reflecting on our experiences, and he made the point that he's glad to see teenagers dressing preppier. When we were their age, we were wearing Dickies, Carharts, ski masks in the winter. Public buses wouldn't let us on the bus if we had the ski masks on. We looked like killers, and there were killers amongst us, although the far majority including myself were just going with the flow. Nowadays though, there's room for kids to dress preppy, and in some cases like quasi homosexuals. So maybe kids are moving away from the G-look. I guess I should thank Kanye and Jay.
http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2010/10/07/teenager-shot-over-sagging-pants/.
uh huh.. syl.
How long does a fad last?
20 years?
Syl
This fad is longer than twenty years though. I'm on the East Coast, but I've always been under the impression this trend originate out West from the Pens. If those Cali boys were doing it throughout the eighties, that means this has been going on for a good thirty years at least from their standpoint. The rest of the country has been doing it for a good twenty years. I don't see this fad ceasing.
http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2010/10/07/teenager-shot-over-sagging-pants/.
uh huh.. syl.
Sigh...saggy pants are a fad. It will pass, all fads do. It's not a sign of anything except that someone is wearing baggy pants.
I don't think so, although I wish it would pass. I'm in my 30's, and when I was in high school 15 years ago kids were doing it. Now kids are still ding it. The only thing that seems to have changed is their jeans have gotten tighter.
the question is this;.
because you are members of this apostate site, yet are still willing to serve the wt soc as elders,.
do you still hope to .
the question is this;
because you are members of this apostate site, yet are still willing to serve the WT soc as elders,
do you still hope to
1: survive armageddon
or
2: (if you snuff it beforehand,) do you hope for a resurrection?
I was gonna avoid this thread, but what the heck. BigMac, no disrespect to you, but this is one of least thought out questions I've seen on this board. I'm under the impression I should be insulted, but I've insulted enought posters on this board that it would be hypcocritical and a bitch move of me to be overly offended. Listen, I'm a member of an apostate website which I post on regularly while serving as an Elder. You know and I know posting on an apostate website is taboo in WT Land. Yet you still ask if those in my situation hope to survive Armageddon, or hope for a resurrection? If I'm posting on an apostate website, I think it goes without saying I don't have any hangups about Jehovah destroying me for posting on here. Although I will admit initially I had some unease, I'll grant you that. Just a touch of internal conflict.
My definition of courage is this....To be scared to death, and do the right thing anyway. In this situation, the right thing is to consider the greater good of others. An elder has the "edge" over the rank and file. Don't argue that, you know it is true...Given, an elder is low on the totem pole relatively speaking, but to the congo, he is the direct step to mama. You have to deal with the elder before you can appeal or take a situation further.
It is a hierarchy, and a male dominated level of authority. Yet some elders would profess to be "protecting" their wife and children. How are you protecting your precious family by subjegating them to a flawed (by your own admission) dogma? How are you protecting them? It seems to me You do not know the first thing about being a woman, or a lowly rank and file member of the witnesses. I don't accept that there is no difference. You are giving allegiance(gulp) to the enemy, and thereby delaying freedom to yourself and to your wife and family, who are indoctrinated to accept your authority... Sorry, I don't accept that, I don't understand that, it hurts me too much.
Now please remember (lest I get another slobbery raspberry, this is NOT directed to ANYONE personally. It is just my opinion on the wider theme.
I am a grandma of many children, a long time poster on this board, and am seeking honest dialogue. It is NOT my intent or desire to attack or hurt anyone. I have an honest desire to understand, and am trying to understand. I will drop the matter if my questions are offensive.
Hey LittleWitch. You mentioned you're a grandma of many children, I take that to mean you aint no spring chicken, and you quite possibly could fit the definition of whatever "this generation" meant to the WT 80 years ago, 20 years ago, and if you're still around 20 years from now, well you'll fit that definition too. Hell, you probably fit whatever Jesus meant when he said it. You state that as an Elder, we're low on the totem pole in the big scheme of things, however in the congregation's eyes I'm the liason to Big Momma. From your post, I can tell you're a feisty old fart. I check up on a couple feisty old farts like you in my field service group. They're a hoot, and I love them. However, those women are shrewd, and they take advantage of me, more than I could ever do them. On quite a few occasions I've done more for them than what I'm obligated to do. Their families have thanked me. I've sat in on Elder meetings where I've heard genuine concern for women in the hall from the ambitious men.
Considering that you're what we might call "experienced", you know as well as I do that women in this organization although not allowed to perform the same responsibilities of males, are still far from living the life of a slave. I don't know if you're recollecting from your plantation days or what, but the majority of the women in my Hall, are not helpless little wenches looking for mercy from the tyrannical Elder body and Lord Tyranus Misery the 3rd. While we're on the subject of Venus vs Mars, let me ask you a question my fair lady. I know some women on this forum resent not being able to perform the same duties of Ministerial Servants and Elders. Being honest though, do you think most women want to do that stuff? Absolutely not. Matter fact I'll use your lingo, "don't argue that, you know its true." Most of the men don't want to do that crap which is why we're always hearing the need for men to reach out. Its so bad that we've seen articles focusing on preaching specifically to men. I handle accounts, now if you want to start doing that, PM me your phone number and we can exchange addresses or fax numbers and you can start doing this crap. I'll even give you a shout out from the platform.
I can't say that I'm protecting any wife or children as I'm single, and there are no little versions of me carrying my DNA out there. I do have two older parents and siblings that I'm taking into consideration regarding my future decision. Its been mentioned in this thread that its not a thing to be taken lightly, to resign as if its as simple task. Especially when one is in good standing. I've got to play my cards right. I refuse to turn my back completely on my family or hurt them. Besides, there's people on this planet who are going through far worse than being a Jehovah's Witness. I could have been born in Somalia, or been a harlequin baby. I could have Sarcoma, or be paralyzed. But I just happend to be born into a family of devout JWs. I'll take it like a man and deal with it, but my way. Not the way that BigMac sees fit, or the way LittleWitch sees fit. Something else, you mentioned those like myself have allegiance to the WT as if I've joined the Nicky Scarfo Family. To let you describe it I'm terrorizing poor innocent children and widows in the congregation. Look, I like you, but seriously GTFOH! You pay taxes on things that you disagree with. Your local municipalities do things that you disagree with it. Do you recognize their allegiance? Do ya, worm? I'm not spying on anybody's activities in the hall, and neither is any of the other Elders on the body. I saw a rated R movie over the weekend, called, get this..........Devil. Yes, it was demonized. On my way home from work today, I was feeling kinda angsty, so I decided to listen to some CMW.(google that) My point is, I have a measure of freedom, just like anybody else in this country. It aint perfect, but you tell me, what is?
For the record, I'm not offended by any of your or anybody elses questions. Your questions are fair enough. Don't insult me trying to sugar coat it though.
boy am i tired of hearing this one.
yes folks, i heard it at the meeting this week...again.
the sm included a local needs part and this was the subject - family worship night.. apparently, regarding fwn, that time was never, nor now is, ours.
So the FWN is not a designated "family study the watchtower for this sunday" night? So on FWN you study other things? Are families still having a family study? When I lived w/extended family we would have a weekly family bible study which was just a study of the upcoming WT study. Are they really regulating what kind of study families conduct on FWN?
Yes on all your questions. They prefer you either do the family study, or study something else the WT has published. There's been articles that suggested practicing presentations or even learning the new songs in the songbook. They'd prefer you didn't prepare for the midweek meeting on that night. I wouldn't call it regulating per say, but COs are encouraging Elders when shepharding to inquire of how regular a family is doing the family study. Or inquire of anybody for that matter what their activities are on Tuesday(or whatever you're bookstudy night used to be) night. Here's an article on what material to consider for that special evening.
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andFamilyBibleStudyAreVital!
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As in the first century, the Governing Body has deep concern for the welfare of Jehovah’s people. (Acts 15:6, 28) As the dark clouds of the great tribulation draw closer, it is vital that every Kingdom publisher have a solid relationship with Jehovah. How will you use the time previously allocated to the Congregation Book Study? All are encouraged to use this time for family worship. Wise use of this time will permit us to dig deeper into God’s inspired Word and draw from its life-giving waters.—Ps. 1:1-3; Rom. 11:33, 34.2
FamilyWorshipEvening: Family heads are encouraged to shoulder their responsibility before Jehovah to ensure that a meaningful, regular program of family Bible study is followed. (Deut. 6:6, 7) Single brothers and sisters with no family responsibilities will be able to use this time for personal Bible study and research. It is vital for all of us to ‘buy out the opportune time’ for study and meditation in order to maintain the spiritual strength needed in the face of ‘wicked days.’—Eph. 5:15, 16.3
WhattoConsider: The WatchTowerPublicationsIndex or WatchtowerLibrary on CD-ROM can help you locate information that will make your Bible study periods a delight. Families may consider articles from TheWatchtower, such as the regular features “Keys to Family Happiness,” “Teach Your Children,” and “For Our Young People.” Also, Awake! contains the “Young People Ask” series and fascinating articles about the wonders of creation.4
Unhurried Bible reading can impress godly principles and lessons on the minds and hearts of all in the family. (Heb. 4:12) On other occasions, you might watch and discuss one of the videos produced by the organization. There is ample opportunity for ingenuity and creativity. Why not ask your family members what they would enjoy?5
WhyImportantNow: Strengthening our spirituality will prepare us to “stand firm and see the salvation of Jehovah.” (Ex. 14:13) Parents need divine guidance for raising children “in among a crooked and twisted generation.” (Phil. 2:15) Children need help to deal with the deteriorating moral climate in schools today. (Prov. 22:3, 6) Couples do well to strengthen their “threefold cord” with Jehovah. (Eccl. 4:12) Let us, then, make wise use of the time remaining to build ourselves up on our “most holy faith”!—Jude 20.[Study
Questions]1. What special concern does the Governing Body have for us at this time, and why so?
2. How might our personal family worship evening be arranged?
3, 4. What suggestions are offered as to material that we may use, and with what focus in mind?
5. Why is personal and family Bible study so important in our life now?
notice you just made you first post.....
(awesome!).
looking forward to your contribution to our dicussions and story when you are ready!!!.
Welcome!
http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2010/10/07/teenager-shot-over-sagging-pants/.
uh huh.. syl.
Dude that shot the kid in the rear, is about to go to the bing and get shot with something else up his rear.............
i ask because the number of gb is lower than any time in history.
basically with the 7 (8 counting barr, is his head frozen?
) currently on,you have an average size elder body.
Karl Adams is the correct spelling, he has a brother named Joel. He is a real piece of work, I have had discussions with him before and also talked with people who have had talked with him as well.
Barbara Anderson was one of his assistants and he is the head of the writing department. He doesn't have or own a TV and looked like death on two legs 15 years ago when I knew him.
He is very smart and I believe he knows that the Watchtower Doctrine is wrong but knows his place and he keeps writing anyway, I mean what kind of job would he get if he left. He is not a very good speaker and so he keeps a low profile within the org. Not a lot of R&F people know he even exists.
I would say that he is a fairly influential head of this org, as far as fighting for the doctrine issues.
Is it possible you could elaborate further on this Karl Adams? His views? That of his brother?
there's a few posts where the term "conscious class" has been in just recently.. i'm wondering if it means the same to most jws and exjws who post here.. what does the "conscious class" mean to you?.
ok, no funny business about 'being conscious' as in awake and fully cafeinated.. if you could answer the two questions it may help some here to understand what.
this term is a lot better.
Most of us CCs look to be the last JWs in our family lines.....(parents/spouse die and kids leave faith)
I like the way that sounds.
