Posts by miseryloveselders

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BrotherDan's POV

by PSacramento in

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brotherdan seems to have left and before he did he psoted this:.

so this is goodbye.

thanks for the help in getting out of the cult.

miseryloveselders

One last thing, I hope this comes out ok, forgive me please if it doesn't.

It didn't come out okay.

but at the same time they need to know when a man means business. Chris Rock said he wouldn't hit his girl, but he'd shake her real hard.

It makes your 'woman' comment to lady lee yesterday seem even worse - sort of like 'putting her back in her place'. A place that cause her no end of heartache and 'unworthiness.'

If you don't mean any of that, then by all means, say so. But after everything lady lee went through in the WT, calling her 'woman' to remind her of that place seemed pretty callous and weak to me.

If you didn't mean it (or even this statement) that way, then I 100% apologize.

And FYI, I thought Dan was letting his wife run all over him too, and I wanted him to stand up for himself too. But not by pulling the I'm the man, and you're the mere woman card.

Tammy

Hey woman, I mean Tammy, sorry. Some of that was tongue in cheek, Lady Lee's alright in my book. Although I don't agree with all of the recent disfellowshippings on this board. I also don't agree with that thread being deleted. The Hitler/Himmler comparisons I stand by. I started to ask if the mods and administrators of this forum left the WT in 1984 if you catch my drift. But that's neither here, nor there. By the way, you don't ever have to apologize to me Tammy, and neither does anybody else on here. I love you Tammy, you're alright.

As a man, I'm glad you agree with me about Dan's wife running over him. I'm hesitant to at times to toss that out there being that I'm single. My palms are too hairy to hide. But you being a woman and agreeing lets me know I'm not completely out of it.

Maybe my man-up comments didn't come out ok considering you're a woman, but for other men out there, I think they know where I'm coming from.

Again though, Tammy you're wonderful, and I love you. Lady Lee I love you too.

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BrotherDan's POV

by PSacramento in

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brotherdan seems to have left and before he did he psoted this:.

so this is goodbye.

thanks for the help in getting out of the cult.

miseryloveselders

I think its a good thing Dan left, and I don't say that with malice. I hope the best for him, but there comes a time when person has to confront himself, and this is that moment for him. As far as his faith supposedly being destroyed, I'd make the argument that he never had any to begin with, or very little anyway. He reminds me of Jesus' words at Luke 6: 46-49, when he talked about the different foundations that an individual would build his house. Some would dig deep and build it upon a rock mass, and when the flood came, their house held up. Others would build there's upon the sand, and the flood would come, and the house with its lack of secure foundation, would collapse and be destroyed. Dan in my view, falls under the latter category of builder. Granted, he was going through some rough times between this religion, and potentially losing all his family. So don't get me wrong, I'm not judging him, nor do I view him poorly as I'll be singing my swan song from here shortly, possibly under similar circumstances.

Something else about him, if I'm not mistaken, he was a born-in right? I can't speak on behalf of all born-ins, but being one myself I believe so many of us never really had a secure faith to begin with. I believe many of us were systematically trained to perform works that the WT indoctrinated us to believe were absolutely necessarry for salvation. Its kind of like training a dog to sit, fetch, play dead, roll over, take a poop on the newspaper in a particular corner of the room, etc.. Its the same thing with born-ins. We're trained to study WT doctrines and material, attend and comment at meetings, personal study, etc.. An individual can perform all those things, but it doesn't mean he has a solid faith. As demonstrated on this very forum, there's athiests who know WT doctrine and other fundementalist doctrines better than the pious fundementalists themselves. So a JW may know his/her bible, but it doesn't mean his/her faith is intact. When push comes to shove, they fold under pressure. So I believe its a good thing that Dan has left here. I'm a firm believer in destroying, and rebuilding.

One last thing, I hope this comes out ok, forgive me please if it doesn't. I've noticed some of the men on here, really need to man up. Granted I'm not the best guy to be saying this as I have my fears too. I posted them multiple times. However, guys on here, particulary born-ins, have a problem I think of letting women run all over them. Dan's wife ran a major game over on him, and then he took her to dinner. I'd have let her starve had she pulled that stunt on me. A woman would rather catch the Ebola virus than think she's gonna run a game on me. I'm not saying one needs to go Ike Turner on a woman as I don't believe in harming a woman, but at the same time they need to know when a man means business. Chris Rock said he wouldn't hit his girl, but he'd shake her real hard.

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I admit, abject and utter failure.....

by notverylikely in

i tried, i thought i could make it work, it seemed so easy, but alas, in my project to turn a used $3 cigar box into a functional humidor i failed miserably.

i never could make the box airtight enough and allow enough air to circulate through to keep the cigars moist enough with a passive humidifier.

the humidity kept falling too low, i kept have to try to seal more edges of the box and eventually i started losing cigars.. i broke down today and bought a $40 humidor and in the space of just a few hours it is already keeping the cigars more moist and humid.. i failed.

miseryloveselders

NVL..

God loves People who take care of their Cigars..

It`s in the Bible..

What verse is that Outlaw LOl?

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I admit, abject and utter failure.....

by notverylikely in

i tried, i thought i could make it work, it seemed so easy, but alas, in my project to turn a used $3 cigar box into a functional humidor i failed miserably.

i never could make the box airtight enough and allow enough air to circulate through to keep the cigars moist enough with a passive humidifier.

the humidity kept falling too low, i kept have to try to seal more edges of the box and eventually i started losing cigars.. i broke down today and bought a $40 humidor and in the space of just a few hours it is already keeping the cigars more moist and humid.. i failed.

miseryloveselders

Ok, I gotcha!! I never knew that about cigars. I've never smoked so much as a cigarette. Was tempted to try weed at times in my life, but I've never smoked anything.

Let me ask you, what does a cigar taste like. Do you get a buzz, is there an aquired taste, what is it about cigars?

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I admit, abject and utter failure.....

by notverylikely in

i tried, i thought i could make it work, it seemed so easy, but alas, in my project to turn a used $3 cigar box into a functional humidor i failed miserably.

i never could make the box airtight enough and allow enough air to circulate through to keep the cigars moist enough with a passive humidifier.

the humidity kept falling too low, i kept have to try to seal more edges of the box and eventually i started losing cigars.. i broke down today and bought a $40 humidor and in the space of just a few hours it is already keeping the cigars more moist and humid.. i failed.

miseryloveselders

Wait a minute, I misunderstood you, and its my fault because I didn't read your opening post properly. I apologize, but cigars have to be sealed properly, or kept at ideal temperatures?

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I admit, abject and utter failure.....

by notverylikely in

i tried, i thought i could make it work, it seemed so easy, but alas, in my project to turn a used $3 cigar box into a functional humidor i failed miserably.

i never could make the box airtight enough and allow enough air to circulate through to keep the cigars moist enough with a passive humidifier.

the humidity kept falling too low, i kept have to try to seal more edges of the box and eventually i started losing cigars.. i broke down today and bought a $40 humidor and in the space of just a few hours it is already keeping the cigars more moist and humid.. i failed.

miseryloveselders

You sure you're not listening to those right wing fringe radio hosts too much, McGuyver?

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The Holiday Thread

by SweetBabyCheezits in

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[i'm sure this thread comes up several times a year by us noobs but it's new for me.

btw, i'm not advocating or opposing the celebration of holidays, just giving a perspective we've taken recently.].

okay, so before we got df'd a few weeks back, we weren't sure if we were going to start celebrating holidays... for a few reasons:.

miseryloveselders

that's a beautiful picture. as a city boy, its all the more fascinating to me.

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Thanks and Goodbye

by brotherdan in

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i really do appreciate all the help you guys have given me in this process.

but it's time for me to leave.

it was time for me to leave the wt (at least in my mind) when it became damaging to me.

miseryloveselders

Nothing wrong with moving on Dan. I liked your posts and threads. Hope the best for you and I hope you come to some kind of resolution with your respective other. I hope you stand your ground dealing with her too. I'm not saying that you grab her by the throat, but don't let her step all over you either. I hope you swing through here occasionally and say wsup. Also, I think its a good thing to move on from this forum for some. There comes a time when its appropriate to stand on your own two feet. I hope and pray the best for you Dan. Grab life by the horns, and break its neck while you're at it.

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The Chill Pill

by Darth plaugeis in

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some times we all need the chill pill.. time to take a deep breath...... hold it............ slowly exhale.... good!

(not being bad just air).

let's all take a moment and relax..... for christ sake people..... it's only tuesday!.

miseryloveselders

I always liked this one.

You're right though. It does get pretty heated around here. I've had a heluva day at work today, to the point I'm starting to develope Hitler/Himmler thoughts towards people on medical assistance. But like you said, gotta take a deep breath, and put things in perspective. Life could be worse, we could be out in field service or at an assembly.

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The Holiday Thread

by SweetBabyCheezits in

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[i'm sure this thread comes up several times a year by us noobs but it's new for me.

btw, i'm not advocating or opposing the celebration of holidays, just giving a perspective we've taken recently.].

okay, so before we got df'd a few weeks back, we weren't sure if we were going to start celebrating holidays... for a few reasons:.

miseryloveselders

I'm happy for you and your family Cheezits. I've seen your family pictures too, you have a beautiful family. I can only imagine how warm it must have felt to do holidays together as a family.

On the other hand, I get flack everytime I comment on these threads. I probably should wait on Vamp to get here before saying anything. I know he's on the same page as me. Personally, I'm somewhat thankful of my JW upbringing when it comes to holidays. I'm not exactly a people person. The thought of holidays, shopping, and spending time with people makes me irritable, and increases my anxiety. I've never been particulary social, and I avoid JW gatherings at all costs. When it comes to holidays, I imagine all the scum shopping at Wal Mart, or the crowds at Best Buy, a small side of me appreciates the WT. Having to eat dinner with family, whats the point? I ate dinner with family for 22 years of my life. There's no lost time to make up when it comes to holiday dinners. Holidays, I can sleep in late as I'm off from work. Screw field service. There's usually some good NFL, or NBA action. However, I hate holiday music, I hate holiday movies, and holiday TV specials. Can't stand all that crap. They show that same stupid movie with that kid getting his tongue stuck on the pole every year. As a Jehovah's Witness, even one who doesn't buy the WT's nonsense, I can avoid all that holiday crap. Only thing that irritates me about this year is that retarded KM School which is on Christmas, and Christmas Eve. Jackasses in Bethel making brilliant decisions.