If Ynot doesn't post it, or my COBOE doesn't read it to me, then I don't trust it. Sometimes I wonder if some posters want change so bad within this organization that they start to just believe any ol nonsensible rumor put out there. By the way, you didn't hear this from me, but they're doing away with Auxiliary Pioneering starting 6/1/2011. From what my sources told me the higher ups feel that those Auxiliary Pioneering needed more encouragement to join the full time ranks, and that eliminating the Auxiliary option would be the best way to accomplish such. If you believe what I just posted, you're on dust.
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Do You Tend To Believe New Posters When They Tell Us What Bethel's Up To?
by minimus incircuit overseers were supposed to be a thing of the past.
"presiding overseers" were supposed to take over.. there seem to be certain people "in the know" that reveal information and it may sound very convincing-- but is it??.
do you tend to believe what new posters say if they tell us about "new light" from the organization?.
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Sticky Situation - What to do?
by I<3MYGod ini have posted about my experience with the cult....so now i find myself in a difficult position.
i have left it alone for many years but i wonder what you guys think.. i faded away from the cult and stopped going for quite a while.
my older sister took it upon herself to meet with my family and discuss all my sins and actions (they were active).
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I'm probably the biggest hypocrite for this post by the way, cuz I'm not the type of person you trifle with. However, as much as it would be nice to get a little get-back on your sister, it doesn't make it right. Personally speaking, I say take the higher road, and don't return evil with evil. This religion stresses and tears families apart. It's already affected your family relationships, and now you're considering whether or not to up the ante. I say let it go. It says alot about a person's character and self dignity when they resolve not to sink to the level of others.
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miseryloveselders
Darth, I'm talking about the brotha by the bathroom.
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December 15th WT gives example of sister who quit her job so she could go to an convention.
by life is to short ini was beyond mad when i heard this.
it is on page 30 of the wt.. it says "a pioneer named roxana is one who has seen how jehovah provides for his people.
when she asked her employer for permission to take some days off to attend one of our conventions, he angrily retorted that if she went, he would fire her.
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This article is disturbing on so many levels. I mean its one thing to outright lie and fabricate an experience such as this. It's another thing entirely to insinuate that your readers should do something as irresponsible as quitting their job in order to attend the annual publication release convention. Especially in this economic enviroment, it irresponsible and dispicable.
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I'm starting to develop a real hatred toward this religion
by man in black inthis past week i flew out of town to attend a seminar for work, then afterwards i drove 150 miles extra to go and visit my dad.. two years ago my mom died, and the lack of concern/caring from the so-called "friends" from two different states was a major reason why i walked away from the jw religion.. anyway, my dad is depressed and his local hall has him doing more fs, and attending the meetings,,, ok so that could be a good thing for him.. but i noticed that service and meeting attendance is the only thing that they are pushing on him.
nobody seems to check up on him, he just jumped at the chance to go out to eat with me.
and the negativity !!!
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Sorry you have to deal with that. I completely understand where you're coming from on the negativity aspect. My dad is 72 I beieve? I can never remember his birthday since we don't celebrate them. Every time I call him or go to see him, its all negativity, all the time. "Did you see the bombing in Iran?" "Did you see they're repealing Dont Ask Dont Tell?" "Did you see the unemployment rate?" "Misery I tell you the end has got to be close. It has to be." Even when he's trying to talk positive, it comes off negative. "The world is getting their reward, one day we'll get our reward, and it will be forever!"
One of the last times we talked, I replied, "Its taking kind of long isn't it?" He looked at me and smiled and nodded his head, "It seems that way, but I just think about what we'll gain in the new system. Remember Simeon? When he saw the Messiah, he then could die in peace. He didn't see or understand the fulfillment of it all, but he was at peace. Thats how I feel. If I don't make it before the end of this system, then I'll die in peace."
I know where you're coming from. This religion is something else, it does a number on people.
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Are they really that bad???
by anonymous4 inhad a good look into the doctrine, beliefs and practices of jws and to be honest, i don't really see anything wrong with it at all.. it's biblical and i've had such an eye opener the past year or so reading some of their books and magazines .
is there really any real reasons why i shouldn't want to get involved further?
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Be easy on her Isaac, its the holidays man.
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Do You Believe Your Government or Political Party Affiliation Is Righteous?
by minimus ini know some that tout their government as being blameless, wonderful, and almost perfect.
whether you are considered a "liberal" or "conservative", it seems that some are "true believers" in their cause.. personally, i'm disillusioned with politics although i'm always interested and fascinated by ideology and personalities.. i think all governments are unrighteous.
i think some individuals mean well but the higher in government that you are, the more soiled you become..
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I like the last thought in your opening post Min as I believe that some do really try, and probably most who've gotten into politics had honorable intentions. The goverment is just too big, and beuracratic, and problems in life are too complex. It's to the point that even the most honorable of people that get involved with politics end up having to play the game. This two party system doesn't help matters. And even the spin off parties are like unwanted bastard children. Politics are what makes me wonder if the WT, or other fringe groups might be onto something. Maybe they figured it out before the rest of us hopeful types. The cynical side of me looks at the thread question as an oxymoron.
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I Have a Peptic Ulcer :-(
by snowbird infinally, i get an answer.. that's a relief.. doctor hopes medication and diet will be sufficient.. i hope so, too.. syl.
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miseryloveselders
That sucks, hope you heal soon and feel better. Syl you've had your fair share of problems lately, hope things start picking up for you.
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Foreskin Follies! [Great Bible Story for Kids - Not]
by 3Mozzies inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlscy3fzczu.
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miseryloveselders
bttt. Good video.