Posts by miseryloveselders

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Bethel Rules

by brotherdan in

this was brought up just in passing on another thread.

but i wanted to see if there are any bethelites or ex bethelites that remember some of the crazy rules we had to follow when we were there..

This thread has already reached classic status in my opinion. I'm not the type of guy that does well under pressure or somebody on a power trip telling me what to do. One of those housekeepers going through my stuff, I would have smacked flames out of her. The table head directs which way the food is passed? GTFOH!! LOL No licking your fingers with BBQ Ribs? C'mon. I would have been diplomatic and wiped my hands clean with a paper towel, and then look at the table head as I licked the paper towel. Just for emphasis, I would have licked it real perverted so that he would think I'm a homo making a pass at him. You have to go to every morning worship? I get up when I want to get up. No shirts with logos? What about the crocodile logo on polo shirts?

What a bunch of power tripping cowards. If those planes would have hit Bethel on 9/11, I wouldn't have shed one tear.

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J.R.Brown

by Mall Cop in

it's been very quiet concerning him.

anyone have an update, information on his where-abouts and current position?

he use to be the spoke-person for the society in the news media etc.

miseryloveselders

Cult Classic, you just opened a entire can of worms with that last post!! You've got to elaborate on that!! What do you mean when you say racism is definately acknowledged at Bethel, and that there are "serious racial problems at Bethel?!?!?!?

You've got to elaborate on this!!!

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J.R.Brown

by Mall Cop in

it's been very quiet concerning him.

anyone have an update, information on his where-abouts and current position?

he use to be the spoke-person for the society in the news media etc.

miseryloveselders

Hey Cult Classic, I appreciate both your and Sola's posts. I sometimes may get a little trigger happy with criticizing my own when they're successful. I can't help but to question Herd when I see all those old white faces on the GB and Writing Department. Especially being a born-in, I know how people get to the positions they have in this organization, and its generally speaking not self respecting. At the same time I can't paint everybody with the same brush, but I can't but help and think dudes like JR Brown and Herd are some brown nosing house negros if there ever was some. If I'm wrong, then I'll apologize. As it stands now though, they don't look good in my eyes.

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J.R.Brown

by Mall Cop in

it's been very quiet concerning him.

anyone have an update, information on his where-abouts and current position?

he use to be the spoke-person for the society in the news media etc.

miseryloveselders

Lost Generation, thank you for posting that. I sincerely thank you for posting that. That lying rotten bastard. Wow I'm at a loss for words. What a rotten dude. To make the claim that, they're in no way above anybody else............wow.

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The fundamental flaw with the WTBTS as "God's Organization"?

by Essan in

there are countless issues that people have with the society and which together have led to many people realizing that it is not what it claims and pretends to be.

these include things like the secret un affiliation, contradictory and hypocritical stances, (malawi vs mexico vs un/ngo), the ever changing blood policy and ever changing doctrine, failed predictions for armageddon etc, etc, etc.. but what is the consensus about what the fundamental flaw is?.

what i mean is, many jw's hear about these various issues and manage to make endless excuses for them, even though this involves gross hypocrisy and excusing the society for things they would never excuse in other religions and which the society itself has ruthless condemned other religions for over almost 100 years.

miseryloveselders

Alice doesn't even know who she makes herself of to be. One day its' Rachel from Houston, next day its Alice the Cigarette smoking defender of all things JW, or Confearacy. I'm making a spreadsheet at work right now related to Alice's and Consfearacy's posts to compare similarities and differences. My goal is to predict when she'll show up, and as whom. Kinda like a weatherman, but in this case, I'm studying a split personality nutcase from Houston.

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Anyone from the South Los Angeles area ? (also Carson,Long Beach,Compton areas too.)

by Pitchess Co-Gen in

jw
friends

i'm from that area and my grandfather was a very prestigious elder.

tell me your name and congregations and stories.

( i love everyones stories .

miseryloveselders

I'm not from out that way, but quick question for you. How'd you come up with your screen name? I just read that the eses and blacks went at it in Pitchess LA County Jail.

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Did you ever know any JW's/Pioneers who frequented popular nightspots and got drunk?

by James_Slash in

it used to make me sick at these hypocrites.. they would be at the meeting the next day or out in field service, obviously still intoxicated from the night before but putting a show on before the congregation.

i knew a couple of girls who would be regulary doing this over a weekend yet they would be pioneers all week, answering up at the meetings yet would be heading into popular nightspots and coming home at 4am drunk.

their dad was an elder (surprise, surprise).. i remember telling an elder about this once.

miseryloveselders

I've seen situations such as this, one of which resulted in a pioneer getting temporarily removed. She was regularly getting wasted at a bar in her neighborhood. If not for the fact that it wasn't in a local bar, there's a possibility she may have not been removed. If she was getting wasted at her home, and someone mentioned it to the body, they'd investigate it, but because it's not general public knowledge, they won't act on it, other than maybe mentioned that she needs to consider how her conduct may stumble others. In this case, she was doing it in front of everybody in the bar, so I guess the body's reasoning was the neighbors looked at her like, "she supposed to be a JW, and she drinks like the rest of us."

There's a handful of brothers I know, some elders who I know for a fact are alcoholics. One of which I heard secondhand that worldly relatives of a brother said at some social affair that this elder drank more than the nonJWs. The odd thing is, I believe there's a culture in this organization that sort of condones heavy drinking. Some of it I wonder at times is due to peoples differing tolerances. Some people can do three shots of bourbon and be fine, others do one shot and are ripped. The other thing is drinking is one of the few vices that on the surface seems to be ok by the scriptures. I mean yeah, there's verses stating drunkards won't make it into the kingdom. On the other hand there's verses saying that eating and drinking are the reward for a hard day's work. For some reason drinking is up to anybody's interpretation.

On a side note, this "Brazen" defination may change things come next year. We'll have to see how it plays out.

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The fundamental flaw with the WTBTS as "God's Organization"?

by Essan in

there are countless issues that people have with the society and which together have led to many people realizing that it is not what it claims and pretends to be.

these include things like the secret un affiliation, contradictory and hypocritical stances, (malawi vs mexico vs un/ngo), the ever changing blood policy and ever changing doctrine, failed predictions for armageddon etc, etc, etc.. but what is the consensus about what the fundamental flaw is?.

what i mean is, many jw's hear about these various issues and manage to make endless excuses for them, even though this involves gross hypocrisy and excusing the society for things they would never excuse in other religions and which the society itself has ruthless condemned other religions for over almost 100 years.

miseryloveselders

The thing I find the most ironic about it all is, when I do a search for an article that makes an argument in support of the Faithful and Discreet Slave as being something prophetic in nature, I can't find anything. I looked in the Insight Books, and if my memory serves me correct, it takes a pot shot at Christendom, and then it still doesn't make an argument to support the Slave Class as being prophetic and only applicable to the WTS.

Maybe this is a job for Blondie or other CD Rom specialists on here. Can anybody locate an article that supports the Faithful and Discreet Slave as something prophetic and applicable to the WT only? I'm asking for an article of some type that logically makes the argument for the WTS being the subject of Christ's parable, and evidence that this parable is more than just an illustration.

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J.R.Brown

by Mall Cop in

it's been very quiet concerning him.

anyone have an update, information on his where-abouts and current position?

he use to be the spoke-person for the society in the news media etc.

miseryloveselders

Minimus, I wouldn't be mad if you said it.

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If Someone Tells You They Will Call You At A Certain Time And They Don't....

by minimus in

jw
friends

how does that affect you?.

it ticks me off if i'm waiting for a call and i stop myself from doing something only to not have the person keep the commitment..

miseryloveselders

I shouldn't even comment on this thread, I'm so guilty of not calling people back when they expect me to. I'm a hypocrite to boot, cuz I hate waiting on late phone calls too!