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  Christian Arrogance

  by startingover in

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  maybe arrogance is not the right word but i can find no other that describes what i see.

  the idea expressed by some christians on this board is that somehow god specifically chose them.

  i'll quote perry as an example as his post inspired this thread.

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  Hi Snowbird

  Why? Did mat 11:16-19 ( I didnt get it)

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  Christian Arrogance

  by startingover in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  maybe arrogance is not the right word but i can find no other that describes what i see.

  the idea expressed by some christians on this board is that somehow god specifically chose them.

  i'll quote perry as an example as his post inspired this thread.

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  Hi Startingver (My reply to yourChristian Arrogence)

  Divide the some (Christians) multiply it by a thousand and then you have an army.I think most christians on this board are more silent than arrogenet. (A silent army)

  Iam agnostic.

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  JW Apologists please tell me where your God was when .....

  by wobble in

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  during the dark days of the second world war , the monsters that ran a concentration camp decided to hang a child.. they hung the poor little chap so that it took half an hour for him to die, all the while making the other inmates look into the face of the child.. where was your god then ?

  was he not strong enough to do anything or did he just not care ?.

  if the first then he is a very weak god, if the second then,.

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  Hi Mary

  If you look at the bleeding hearts of those you have helped through this board.

  There is your "Loving God".....And that resembles a "loving God"...Its simply a heart that has been broken. That touches other broken hearts.

  From me of the agnostic thinking-

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  My Story Pt 2 "Iam made grotesque"

  by acolytes in

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  jehovers witnesses leaders put tremenderous guilt and pressure on the flock.

  they never put tremenderous guilt and pressure on god.this is wrong for the simple fact god does not answer prayers regarding suffering and evil-.

  anyway after the fiasco with the unbuttoned shirt sleeve in pt 1 of my story my eyes were opened to this callous organisation.. i was forced to assume grotesque qualities.

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  Thanks Penny2

  I just read your first post "Poem" under topics started. It was very moving and will always be a very secial post to me-

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  Have You Ever Bought Something From An Infomercial?

  by minimus in

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  i was reading an article from a magazine quoting consumer reports saying that most infomercials say that their products are so much better than another but the reality is often it's not true.. i'm curious; did you ever buy something because of an infomercial?

  if so, what?.

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  Hi Minimus

  Now I know what a "Infoercials"is I would never buy from an informercial-

  After buying into the Watchtower I always now ask "Who benifits ?

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  Have You Ever Bought Something From An Infomercial?

  by minimus in

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  i was reading an article from a magazine quoting consumer reports saying that most infomercials say that their products are so much better than another but the reality is often it's not true.. i'm curious; did you ever buy something because of an infomercial?

  if so, what?.

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  Hi Miinius ......Whats an informercial?

  Of the " Swedish" shouted aloud round a room "Whats an inforrmercia l!!!....?????????

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  Quakers

  by S EIGHT in

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  i've been doing some research today on the quakers and so far i quite like what i see.. the main reason is the lack of dogma or creed and the freedom to have views of your own.

  however, i am still researching and no way am i considering joining them - i just like what i see so far.. i wondered if anyone else - ex jw, has taken a look at this faith.

  if so, what were your conclusions?.

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  Quakers dont take things so seriously. I mean that in a positive way. I doubt they would apply the word "Truth"

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  My story pt 3 "Freedoom"

  by acolytes in

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  choosing my freedoom from the congregation of course doomed me to its approval, which had no sympathy.

  (seeing me as a victim of satan).

  it felt strange being cut off from a vital past.

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  Choosing my freedoom from the congregation of course doomed me to its approval, which had no sympathy.(Seeing me as a victim of Satan)

  It felt strange being cut off from a vital past. Lonly and rejected and unable to return I none the less felt it my duty to justify my reasons with any witness I met on the street.Sadly in most instances I came across as having lost my mind and I was perceived as morally corupt having rejected Jehover.I off course saw things differently I saw that the individual member of the congregation were to ingrained in the lie, the myth which had imprisond them and impaired their ability to think and transcend its history.

  My journey in began with an over zelouse newly baptised brother who hooked me hook line and sinker with his enthusiasm. My journey out began because of a unfastend button on a shirtsleeve (see pt one)

  In between time the over zelouse brother soon became promoted to the rank of elder. I noticed he enjoyed the camaraderie and the harshness of disiplining the flock. And sadly this ambitiouse elder who cared only about being promoted never did become a consciouse person even after I confronted him and got him to acknowledge it was all a lie.

  My fealings towards the Governing Body and elders in general are recorded in my post(What makes an Elder) otherwise I have no bitterness iam in some curiouse way grateful for the exsperience. LIFE MOOVES ON.

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  My Story Pt 2 "Iam made grotesque"

  by acolytes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jehovers witnesses leaders put tremenderous guilt and pressure on the flock.

  they never put tremenderous guilt and pressure on god.this is wrong for the simple fact god does not answer prayers regarding suffering and evil-.

  anyway after the fiasco with the unbuttoned shirt sleeve in pt 1 of my story my eyes were opened to this callous organisation.. i was forced to assume grotesque qualities.

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  I have started topics on a...

  (A ) A covicted murderer= 40 +posts .

  ( B)Do you" exist" =39 +posts...

  (C) a question on "if "=40+ posts

  (D) What is an elder= "39 " posts+ counting .

  E+F = My sincere life story of my witness awakening=0 posts. ie no interest.

  This made me question my writing style.

  Later that day my son said to me "Grand-daddy said you were a silly billy"... so I hit him

  If this post makes any sence it shows we we need to accept posters for who they are regardless of social ecconomical or international dissadvantages and remember that being gramatically correct is meaningless. What counts is posters who break these barriers "Ooopa"ie

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  why i wept bitterly in front of two elders......

  by oompa in

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  not sure if i ever shared this...but have seen several "sharing" threads here lately and it motivated me..... when i met with the co and po about some doubts and an important question....and when i got the co's answer.....i could not speak....i put my head down and just started crying...not sobbing cause i fought it back...finally the only words to come out were..."i am going to have to leave my wife and son"....and they were like wtf?...but in jw lingo of course.

  see i knew in that instant...that very moment....that i had been lied to my entire life...and my stack of doubts i had been piling on the shelf and waiting on jehovah were all valid....and i knew i would never fit in again...not even with my wife and son...that i would never be the spiritual head they needed and wanted.....that was almost 4 years ago...man time flies...and yep...now i am separated from my jw wife...and yep...i did not fit in...not even with her...and my son is older now and moved out but we are not close.

  btw...i had printed out all 12 places in rev.

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  Hi Oompa

  I love your honesty. It is real masculinity to express your emotions so openly. Having followed your posts I think you still both love and like your wife as she does you.Iam also glad the confused Oompa got over the alcoholic period. If you have learnt moderation and tolerence you are the master of your own destiny.

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