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  Should I walk away from my "underwater" home?

  by The Berean in

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  millions are now facing the dilemma of making house payments on a property that is not worth what is being paid.

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  after originally promising to repay the bank, is there a "moral" obligation to continue in a dwelling, even at a loss ... or is it best to exercise the "legal" right of foreclosure and pay the consequences ?.

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  I have tremendouse respect for you- One of the resons I registerd with this site was your funny and informative posts.

  However I must say your understanding of these contracts whilst correct fails to understand that the contract clause allowing a purchaser to walk away is written in the banks favour. It means break the contract and get behind on the repayments but then you walk or we evict.

  Believe me dont take that option. When you take a loan from a bank have it in your favour. You benifit by getting on top of the loan . Never take a interst only loan. Borrow a house loan to be paid back in 20 or 30 years. Then pay more on your monthly payments(Sod the new T.V and Sofa) A 20 year loan can be paid back in 15 years. Have fun living rent free.

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  Should I walk away from my "underwater" home?

  by The Berean in

  1. jw
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  millions are now facing the dilemma of making house payments on a property that is not worth what is being paid.

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  after originally promising to repay the bank, is there a "moral" obligation to continue in a dwelling, even at a loss ... or is it best to exercise the "legal" right of foreclosure and pay the consequences ?.

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  Just to clarify my figures of house prises doubling every 10 years was based on England and Sweden. America I suspect is similar. Learn from the crash in the 80s.

  A-STICK IT OUT.

  B-Get on top of the loan.

  C.-the equity is your kids future.

  D-Plann to pay off the mortgage(Loan) A.S.A.P- (When the debts paid its your home)

  E-FIVE YEARS FROM NOW THEIR IS KNOW NEGATIVE EQUITY.

  I think it is wise to buy a property in an exspensive area. Buy as YOUNG as possible. If you pay a loan off on a property(Or have equity) in New York or London. you are made for life. Can live anywhere.

  OWNING PROPERTY IS THE SAFEST FORM OF INVESTMENT IN THE WORLD. Dont give up and go to rental- long time you loose BIG-

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  Should I walk away from my "underwater" home?

  by The Berean in

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  millions are now facing the dilemma of making house payments on a property that is not worth what is being paid.

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  after originally promising to repay the bank, is there a "moral" obligation to continue in a dwelling, even at a loss ... or is it best to exercise the "legal" right of foreclosure and pay the consequences ?.

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  The Beran

  You asked Is their a moral obligation. Maybe a business answer is your preferd option. Since records were kept house prises double every 10 years. Ok the last decade they went 150% .So five years of decline. Stick it out its better than renting.

  Anyway when the banks paid of you win. Only NEVER get an interest only loan unless you plan on repaying the loan AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

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  Try this PRAYER EXPERIMENT and compare results!

  by Terry in

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  okay, first you will need ten pennies.. .

  heads=prayer answered.

  tails=prayer ineffective.

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  Hi Terry

  You seem very convinced with your reasoning. Is their anyplace for a shade of grey

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  To those working against the W.T from the inside,

  by acolytes in

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  to those working against the w.t from the inside.. are you not still forced from without to conform, and from within to rebel, therefore any compromise is related within the confines of conformity.

  therefore is not your protest set by the society and its social order you have allowed be erected before you?.

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  Ho The old hippee

  I wouldnt have belived what you said possible. But prior to my leaving I was doubting and also offerd the position of M.S. Which I declined

  . But I had the privalige to close in prayer, anyway I used to say thinks like thankyou for the personal relationship we have with you Jehover and your son. I kid you not I got Chhristian books from the library and used their interpretatins. (Never got councelled) It was my way of confirming it was all a crap.

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  To those working against the W.T from the inside,

  by acolytes in

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  to those working against the w.t from the inside.. are you not still forced from without to conform, and from within to rebel, therefore any compromise is related within the confines of conformity.

  therefore is not your protest set by the society and its social order you have allowed be erected before you?.

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  HI Titus

  Iam not judging only sincerly trying to understand.

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  To those working against the W.T from the inside,

  by acolytes in

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  to those working against the w.t from the inside.. are you not still forced from without to conform, and from within to rebel, therefore any compromise is related within the confines of conformity.

  therefore is not your protest set by the society and its social order you have allowed be erected before you?.

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  Thanks for the reply highdose.

  A good point you made. Working from the inside must create incredible stress to leave and conform to a life that is real.

  But how can a person who has seen the "light" still conform to individual judgements. Still function in a world he knows is lies. To have to see the real world as an ilusion. How can a person with a sincere conscience simply not walk from an organisation that demands acceptence of Ideas he cannot share.

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  To those working against the W.T from the inside,

  by acolytes in

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  2. friends

  to those working against the w.t from the inside.. are you not still forced from without to conform, and from within to rebel, therefore any compromise is related within the confines of conformity.

  therefore is not your protest set by the society and its social order you have allowed be erected before you?.

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  To those working against the W.T from the inside.

  Are you not still forced from without to conform, and from within to rebel, therefore any compromise is related within the confines of conformity. Therefore Is not your protest set by the society and its social order you have allowed be erected before you?

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  Try this PRAYER EXPERIMENT and compare results!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay, first you will need ten pennies.. .

  heads=prayer answered.

  tails=prayer ineffective.

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  My previouse post gave the impression I do not believe in prayer.Actually I believe its beyound our comprehension and understad how to tap that power within ourselfs that can answer our own prayers. A person who is depressive or living with guilt is always going to come second to a realistic positive person who has a good conscience.

  What is a persons interpretation of prayer?

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  Mill Hill Disfellowshippings

  by BorgHater in

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  a few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.

  i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.

  borghater xx.

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  I have a similar attitude to Dave Brown towards the G.B.

  I left the Witnesses because I witnessed the moral collapse of once decent people because they put their trust in the G.B- Turning such people into condescending and patronizing morons

  .The governing body also corrupts the meak in the congregation with its narrowing and desensitizing definition of appropriate behaviour.

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