Posts by acolytes

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Why do the Churches teach Adam was created perfect?

by acolytes in

this is not a bible teaching.

the bible says the opposite.. adam was created physically imperfect or he wouldnt have needed to be put out the garden so as not to be able to eat from the tree of life-.

adam was created morally imperfect or he wouldnt have failed his first test.

acolytes

Hi Psacramento

I never thought of it in a literal sence. In fact I think the whole concept of understaning God in these verses is beyound our comprehension and understanding. You see words are such an imperfect way for communication. I mean they are great for fun literature ie Sherlock Holmes ,Mark Twain ect. My hope is that their is a afterlife and we are unable to grasp how wonderful it is. Thats why we need faith .But I have also enjoyed debating the subject and challenging my thinking.

Acolytes

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Why do the Churches teach Adam was created perfect?

by acolytes in

this is not a bible teaching.

the bible says the opposite.. adam was created physically imperfect or he wouldnt have needed to be put out the garden so as not to be able to eat from the tree of life-.

adam was created morally imperfect or he wouldnt have failed his first test.

acolytes

Hi Psacramento

I never thought of it in a literal sence. In fact I think the whole concept of understaning God in these verses is beyound our comprehension and understanding. You see words are such an imperfect way for communication. I mean they are great for fun literature ie Sherlock Holmes ,Mark Twain ect. My hope is that their is a afterlife and we are unable to grasp how wonderful it is. Thats why we need faith .But I have also enjoyed debating the subject and challenging my thinking.

Acolytes

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Why do the Churches teach Adam was created perfect?

by acolytes in

this is not a bible teaching.

the bible says the opposite.. adam was created physically imperfect or he wouldnt have needed to be put out the garden so as not to be able to eat from the tree of life-.

adam was created morally imperfect or he wouldnt have failed his first test.

acolytes

Good advise Elsewhere. Actually thats what Iam trying to do.

In my Bible the verse says "In our image after our likeness" But that doesnt mean your point is not valid.

Thanks to everyone for their contribution. This is the place to come for a diversity of viewpoints.

Acolytes

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Why do the Churches teach Adam was created perfect?

by acolytes in

this is not a bible teaching.

the bible says the opposite.. adam was created physically imperfect or he wouldnt have needed to be put out the garden so as not to be able to eat from the tree of life-.

adam was created morally imperfect or he wouldnt have failed his first test.

acolytes

Actually I always thought man was created in Gods image untill he ate of the fruit Genesis3v5....ye shall be as Gods knowing good and evil" Now Adam became in Gods likeness-

Acolytes

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How did Adam sin?

by acolytes in

god presented adam with a commanment.

and he was given the option and told the consequences .. so adam chose to die.

where is the sin.. .

acolytes

PSacramenyo

Iam saying he was commanded by God not to do it, unless he was prepared to pay the consequences. And he chose to pay the consequences.

The consequences were clearly beyound Adams comprehension. He didnt die on that day with his dearly beloved Eve.....the rest is history.

How long can a person live without love? Without water a person can survive a week? Maybe Adam started dying because his ability to love perfectly was destroyed by what happened.

How long do you think a person can live without loving in the perfect sence. Maybe thats why we die? But I personally do not see how Adam disobayed God.

Goodnight from Sweden (Acolytes)

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How did Adam sin?

by acolytes in

god presented adam with a commanment.

and he was given the option and told the consequences .. so adam chose to die.

where is the sin.. .

acolytes

Maybe you are right PSacramento. Only I dont see it like that-

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How did Adam sin?

by acolytes in

god presented adam with a commanment.

and he was given the option and told the consequences .. so adam chose to die.

where is the sin.. .

acolytes

Actually PS acramento

I disagree-Also it doesnt say.... 17 If in the day."....It says ...For in the day you eat"

You must not shoot your yourself in the head for when you shoot yourself in the head you will surely die" That in my mind mind is good advise not a commandment.

I think Adam had freewill and exercised his right to use that freewill and die with his LOVE-(Eve)

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How did Adam sin?

by acolytes in

god presented adam with a commanment.

and he was given the option and told the consequences .. so adam chose to die.

where is the sin.. .

acolytes

PS acramento

Adam didnt do what God told him not to do. He did what God said he could do if he accepted the consequences.

I think his love for Eve and the possibility of life without her, He did what was fully understandable.

Thanks to everyone else for their informative viewpoints.

Acolytes

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ADAM GROWS OLD

by Titus in

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acolytes

Hi Titus

I personally believe The creator never made the promise that was stated in the masthead of the awake.

I believe that promise was made by the Watchtowe leaders .

People could not convert to The WATCHTOWER if they didnt believe that promise. But I agree with you they could be drawn to a personal relationship with Jesus.

Iam sorry you felt you were on cross examination. To answer my question. Personally I feal very sad having taught people things that I belived were from God but were only man made interpretations of scripture.

Thankyou for putting up with what you felt was my interegation. Iam off shopping now. I hope your question is answerd more sattisfactory by more qualified posters.

Acolytes

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ADAM GROWS OLD

by Titus in

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acolytes

I would say up untill October 22 1995 the masthead in the Awake read.

Why Awake is Published........Most importantly this magazine builds confidence in the CREATORS PROMISE of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that say the events of 1914 passes away".

QUESTION. Did the Creator make that promise?

QUESTION. Did the Watchtower leaders make that promise on Jehovers behalf?

QUESTION. How could people convert to a Jehovers Witness if they didnt belive that promise?

QUESTION How do you personally feal having deliverd that message to thousands of doors?

Acolytes