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  Another Dangerous Religion

  by Scorpion in

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  another dangerous religion to watch out for.. australian based.. to the women on this forum, if you want to be enraged, read how women should act and submit if you chose to join.. > http://www.littlepromisedland.com/

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  JanH

  I wondered if it was a parody at first, but it seems not to be.

  Quoth one Mrs. L. Peddell:

  SWEET SURRENDER

  
  If you were to say what your most treasured wish is, what would you say?

  I can tell you mine. It is the gentle smile on my husband’s face, to know he is contented and happy, and that I am his treasured possession... (bold added)

  
  Hey, this is pretty kinky!

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  How far has America come?

  by Mulan in

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  this was sent to me today.

  i thought it was an interesting statement on how far america has come.

  ) sorry it's kind of jumbled.

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  Mulan,

  He makes some really good points on rights and freedoms.

  
  No, he doesn't. Heck, I know the American constitution and its current application on church/state separation better than this guy, and he is an American concerned with these issues! Really, "how far has americans come."

  Your country was founded on freedom FROM religion, becuase the fathers realized that with differing faiths competing for people, the state should be neutral to religion. That of course means no state sponsored church. Individuals are, and always were, free to make their personal prayers in school or wherever. Why should the state sponsor one particular religion's worship?

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  QUESTIONS ON "EVIL"

  by Tina in

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  my discussion group recently debated this topic.. i am interested in everyone's thoughts on these questions:.

  why is there evil?.

  what motivates those who perpetrate it?.

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  JanH

  Seeker,

  Maybe I should ammend my thought to: Evil comes from a selfishness that goes beyond societal bounds.

  So, evil is merely deviation from societal norms?

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  QUESTIONS ON "EVIL"

  by Tina in

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  my discussion group recently debated this topic.. i am interested in everyone's thoughts on these questions:.

  why is there evil?.

  what motivates those who perpetrate it?.

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  JanH

  Tina,

  WHy is there evil?
  What motivates those who perpetrate it?
  How do they reconcile their actions with a self-image that does not embrace evil?

  
  At least half the problem with discussing a complex issue like "evil" is to actually define the term.

  Once you have hammered out a meaningful definition of "evil", you might find that the definition itself answers the question pretty good. And then, you probably discover that the definition was inadequate, or that other people operate with other definitions.

  The question also seems to assume there is some objective truth about what behaviour is evil. Many religionists, for example, will argue that sexual relationships outside marriage is evil. Others will disagree.

  As I see it, the existence of the concept "evil" is not very hard to explain. As Seeker said, evil comes froms selfishness. But it is far from an adequate description. Most of what we do is motivated by a degree of selfishness. And in most situations of life, we grasp for a good that is in limited supply. Competing successfully for your goal may deny it for another person who wants and needs it just as much. When is struggle for resources necessary for survival, and when is it "evil"? Not necessarily easy questions.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  SILENTLAMBS CONVENTION SIGNS!!!

  by VeniceIT in

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  these signs are ready for immediate duplication.

  (the bottom one entitled flyer is in actually dimensions.

  ) its 3x 4. it was done at fast signs which is a nationwide chain, (sign-a-rama or any other sign company can make these for you).

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  Ven,

  Great job!

  out,

  You scared me for a minute there! But http://www.silentlambs.com/ works fine, too

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  History of JW's

  by bjd4jc in

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  i've been doing some research on the jw organization lately and i have found something that i think is very interesting and that everyone ought to think about.

  in studying, i have read (in a few different sources) that charles russel (sp?

  ) founded the organization out of rebellion.

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  JanH

  To me, this says that he was living a lifestyle of SIN and did not want to give it up so he decided that "there wasn't hell" and that God would not punnish him for his sin.

  
  Rubbish.

  You don't have to be a Jew to object to gassing of Jews.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  Right to "Sow the Seeds of Doubt"?

  by JanH in

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  from time to time exjws may face the question of whether they should do anything to cause doubts in the minds of their jw family or friends.

  many argue that these people are happier where they are, inside the organization, and that becoming an "apostate" would cause too many problems to them.

  in other words, perhaps "ignorance is bliss.".

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  JanH

  From time to time exJWs may face the question of whether they should do anything to cause doubts in the minds of their JW family or friends. Many argue that these people are happier where they are, inside the organization, and that becoming an "apostate" would cause too many problems to them. In other words, perhaps "ignorance is bliss."

  I just read an interesting article about this dilemma on this webpage: http://www.secularsouth.org/show.php?column=facts_for_thought&story_id=19

  This article does not deal with JWs at all, but with "normal" fundamentalist/evangelical Christianity.

  Reading the author's arguments for helping people to doubt, one cannot fail to note how similar JWdom are in many ways to more "mainstream" Christianity, particularly the evangelical brands.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  I *witnessed* to the *Christians* last night--LOL!

  by LDH in

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  thought you all would enjoy this.. i went to a b'day party for a friend who is a bible-thumper in the worst way!

  (10x worse than most jw).. i'm sitting around like a zombie while everyone is talking about how "blessed" they are to "know christ" blah blah blah blah blah.. then my interest got peaked as one of the women started quoting scripture talking about how the reason her life is blessed is that her great great grandmother was a russian mennonite blah blah blah and the bible says that god will bless your offspring if you come to know him.

  blah blah blah.. so i start asking a few well placed questions like "well what does that mean for the poor muslim sop whose great great grandmother was a muslim?

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  God_Knows:

  Though Buddhism is admirable in many respects for its similarity to Christianity, living the buddhist lifestyle does NOT mean that you are living as a Christian.

  
  True. Buddhists, for one, does not do anything to cram their beliefs down other people's throats. They do not teach they are the only truth. Their beliefs are open to scrutiny, debate and even revision. And, most importantly, judging by the Buddhists I have met and talked to, their religion has the ability to make people better, not worse.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  McVeigh put to sleep RETARTED next

  by crossroads in

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  earlier this year are governor signed a bill exempting.

  mentally retarded from the death penealty.

  problem.

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  I thought you were nice to retarded people in the US. You even made one president!

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  10 Things That You Never See At Assemblies:

  by Englishman in

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  a mexican wave.. cheerleaders.. a streaker.. ice cream / hot dog vendors.. people standing up with their fist raised high saying "yes!".

  extra time.. presentation of awards.. autographs.. booing.. the audience waving their lighters as night falls.. there must be more!.

  englishman.. ..... fanaticism masquerading beneath a cloak of reasoned logic.

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  JanH

  DubDub,

  How about a contest called, "The most STD's by one person"? or a testimony about the effects of Hepatitus B or AIDS on one's love life?

  
  Or, at your fundie convention, "How never getting laid makes me obsessed with Dzjeeezus!"

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]