Our District Convention isn't until the summer time and the Assembly is over for my wife's circuit.
Never-the-less, I would still be interested in knowing this 'secret signal.'
last year this was brought up and it was a great idea but maybe a bit too late.
do you remember the "secret signal" that was going to be used?
it should not be mentioned in the main thread, only through email and pms.
Our District Convention isn't until the summer time and the Assembly is over for my wife's circuit.
Never-the-less, I would still be interested in knowing this 'secret signal.'
since i live in the rurals of oregon, i am having my own post-rapture party.
and to memorialize this day, i have posted the article from the herald sun on failed predictions on the facebook jehovah witness page:.
charis branson>jehovah witnesses- the jehovah's witness religion has predicted the end of the world in 1914, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975 and 1994.case of poor judgment - us preacher harold camping gets it wrong againwww.heraldsun.com.au .
I was kicked off that forum.
Watch this movie and ask that question again...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LdeySxbsHM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXrFoGROme8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4VjmeaQNv0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFChZGmYWhM&feature=related
this is just my thought after reading over the "book study" for this week.. the apostles chose to follow christ, all of them were jewish christians.
no matter where paul and silas went, the pharisees stayed harrassing them and would not leave them alone.
spreading vicious rumors and trying to have them stopped.. jws compare themselves to the apostles who were being persecuted for going to the synagogues and drawing away other jews and proselytes.
Nothing else to say but...
if a person walked up to you one day and started telling you what to do, how to do it, and threatening you if you refused, wouldn't you immediately ask them by what authority they had such a right?
wouldn't you want to see a badge?
credentials?
The governing body does not tell us what or what not to do. Do we have a list of movies we can't watch? Or a list of websites we can't visit? Or a list of times we can do certain things? You are reaching for the stars with that one buddy.
I was going to repudiate this with a LOOOOONG list of Thou Shalt Nots the Watchtower imposes on its witnesses, but Terry had a beatiful come back.
As for the rest of your argument, I just need an answer to one question. Did Jesus Christ select the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society as His Faithful and Discreet Slave in 1919 or not? If He did and you can prove it, you will have won a brother.
Here's my take on the Bible God telling the israelites to slaughter the people of Canaan. I remember back during the 2000's when George W Bush wanted to invade Iraq and topple Saddam. He actually believed that God was behind him in his decision. At least that was how I understand it. Can you imagine if the Bible were still being penned during this time? What would it read?
What is sadder is that so many sheeple in America agreed with Bush's directive with the most staunch agreers living in the more rural parts of the U.S..
if a person walked up to you one day and started telling you what to do, how to do it, and threatening you if you refused, wouldn't you immediately ask them by what authority they had such a right?
wouldn't you want to see a badge?
credentials?
So, here it is: BULLSHIT!
Terry "Martin Luther" Walstrom
if a person walked up to you one day and started telling you what to do, how to do it, and threatening you if you refused, wouldn't you immediately ask them by what authority they had such a right?
wouldn't you want to see a badge?
credentials?
The True One nailed it. Power and money.
I remember when I was attending an IFB church how the pastor would get up on the pulpit and speak of how they had the correct interpretations of scripture and how other churches were wrong on one aspect or another. Yet he would preach things that were demonstrably wrong and were either not based on the Bible at all or took scripture woefully out of context. Eventually, his brand of legalism forced him to step down as a preacher. At least, so I had heard because by then I had long since left that church only to discover years later that the church had a different pastor who was much more mellow.
If a person walked up to you one day and started telling you what to do, how to do it, and threatening you if you refused, wouldn't you immediately ask them by what Authority they had such a right? Wouldn't you want to see a badge? Credentials? A uniform and the citing of some Law?
Certainly you would! Otherwise, you'd tell them to get the hell out of your face.
And yet...
7 million people on this planet listen to every word published, spoken or taught by a very small group of old men. These 7 million people will even go so far as to die defending what those men tell them! They will allow their own children to die because of what those old men say should be done!
That is the whole crux of the matter right there. Older witnesses are at least aware of the 1919 selection. However, most younger ones are not and don't seem to care about it. To them, they simply believe that the witnesses teach 'closer to the Bible' than anyone else. The problem with that is how can they know this for certain if all they have ever been exposed to is WT teachings while never daring to question them? I still find it amazing that Jehovah's Witnesses will go to great lengths denouncing all other religions but will not take the time to examine their own religion with the same scrutiny.
I remember how my IFB preacher pointed to a pentecostal church while we were out Soul Winning TM saying, "That church preaches false doctrines because they speak in tongues." I remember believing him at the time even though I had went on a skiing trip with some of the members of that church a few years earlier. A few years after I left that IFB church I started attending this church somewhat regularly. They did do the tongue speaking but it was not that bad and they preached the same basic salvation message as the IFB's. I guess by then I had came to the conclusion that no church has everything right and that one was just as good as the other in most cases.
a relative of mine was at the assembly yesterday and was appalled at the message givien before lunch:.
she heard them blast higher education...then warn to not miss meetings for work...then they gave the stupidest illustration i ever heard- they said that it is true that supporting your family is important...but not to give it too much importance and said it is like trying to cross a busy street.
they said if you see a car a long distance off it is ok to cross, if you are too careful you will never cross the street.
Billy The Ex...
Well stated.
a relative of mine was at the assembly yesterday and was appalled at the message givien before lunch:.
she heard them blast higher education...then warn to not miss meetings for work...then they gave the stupidest illustration i ever heard- they said that it is true that supporting your family is important...but not to give it too much importance and said it is like trying to cross a busy street.
they said if you see a car a long distance off it is ok to cross, if you are too careful you will never cross the street.
I hope my wife will largely ignore this, or at least bracket it in her mind. She is trying to finish college and is beginning to realize the importance of a good education and a good paying job as we are struggling financially. I can't imagine how life would be if I were one of them window washers or janitors.