Posts by garyneal

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Are You Ready for The Memorial?

by OnTheWayOut in

it's this week, folks.

i thought i might give you a new thread to vent on.

many on our forum still go to the memorial or have to answer to family about not going.

garyneal

If it makes you feel any better your wif probably isn't angry with you as such for not keeping the kids quiet, much more likely she is worried about what others are thinking as some in the hall rule over their kids to be good little quiet robots! Sad but true.

Thanks Inisc and venetian,

My wife laments now being so harsh with me that Sunday. I talked to some of the other witnesses after the meeting and they did not think we were that bad at all. Even the babysitter said, "I serve Jehovah, not other people," which I thought was a good way to look at it.

Never-the-less, the damage is done.

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So what do your Jehovah's Witness friends and loved ones think of the generation teaching?

by garyneal in

after the little skit at the last assembly where one brother was asking another for understanding about the generation teaching i thought, "wow, these people will believe anything the watchtower tells them.

" the 'more mature brother' practically said verbatim everything the watchtower said as his explanation.

evidently, this is one of the sources of the increased 'murmuring' that the talked warned against.. so, has anyone brought this up to their witness friends and/or family?

garyneal

Thanks for the responses. It is hard to believe that perfectly reasonable people (otherwise) would just accept this doctrine (or pretend to) without question. The irony is that if another church preached something similar, they would be too quick to label it false teachings. If anyone has not yet read Captives of a Concept, I highly recommend it. It illustrates this point very well.

In regards to the fear of dying and uncertainty, I can understand why they may feel this way to a point. I just see, as leavingWT pointed out, that they are truly trapped in the belief that going to the kingdom halls is the only way to serve God. I won't defend Christianity but many Christians believe that they simply need to believe in Christ sans the church. My wife pointed that out in our conversation when she told me that during her field service she would encounter a lot of householders who believed in God but did not believe in having to attend church regularly.

But, I can understand somewhat, myself and a bunch of former IFB's are talking now about when we decided to leave those churches and why? They preach similarly that you must be in church (their church) to be in a good place with God. The fallout of that cult is just like the fallout of this one.

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So what do your Jehovah's Witness friends and loved ones think of the generation teaching?

by garyneal in

after the little skit at the last assembly where one brother was asking another for understanding about the generation teaching i thought, "wow, these people will believe anything the watchtower tells them.

" the 'more mature brother' practically said verbatim everything the watchtower said as his explanation.

evidently, this is one of the sources of the increased 'murmuring' that the talked warned against.. so, has anyone brought this up to their witness friends and/or family?

garyneal

They don't know everything and are trying to do what they are told to do

Is he saying that the GB was trying to do what they are told? That sounds pretty odd.

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So what do your Jehovah's Witness friends and loved ones think of the generation teaching?

by garyneal in

after the little skit at the last assembly where one brother was asking another for understanding about the generation teaching i thought, "wow, these people will believe anything the watchtower tells them.

" the 'more mature brother' practically said verbatim everything the watchtower said as his explanation.

evidently, this is one of the sources of the increased 'murmuring' that the talked warned against.. so, has anyone brought this up to their witness friends and/or family?

garyneal

My wife and I had a discussion about belief and God this past weekend and she said something that struck me. She said that if it was up to her, she would simply have her faith and live a good life sans religion. So I asked her why does she feel that she needs to go to the meetings and she responded, "Because I do not like the idea of dying, being buried under rocks, being drowned, or being killed by lava." Basically, she wants to ensure that she will survive Armageddon.

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Kool-Aid Man, Is Your Army Ready For The Memorial? Where did you go?

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

jw
friends

kool-aid man, is your plan to protest the memorial still in play?

are you mia?.

garyneal

I get the anger people displayed toward Rick but sometimes I think people went too far in bashing him over his 'facts' and manner of protesting. While his behavior towards the members of this board should not be tolerated, I cannot help but to think that he must have just snapped and lashed out at that point. I guess like Mouthy said, it is probably for the best.

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So what do your Jehovah's Witness friends and loved ones think of the generation teaching?

by garyneal in

after the little skit at the last assembly where one brother was asking another for understanding about the generation teaching i thought, "wow, these people will believe anything the watchtower tells them.

" the 'more mature brother' practically said verbatim everything the watchtower said as his explanation.

evidently, this is one of the sources of the increased 'murmuring' that the talked warned against.. so, has anyone brought this up to their witness friends and/or family?

garyneal

I asked my brother/elder if he could explain it and he just emited an awkward laugh and said "you are the only one who even knows about it" as though he hasn't heard through the org. Simply a defense mechanism because he doesn't know what to say.

Yeah, I get responses similar to that too. Something like, "You're the only one making a big deal out of it."

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So what do your Jehovah's Witness friends and loved ones think of the generation teaching?

by garyneal in

after the little skit at the last assembly where one brother was asking another for understanding about the generation teaching i thought, "wow, these people will believe anything the watchtower tells them.

" the 'more mature brother' practically said verbatim everything the watchtower said as his explanation.

evidently, this is one of the sources of the increased 'murmuring' that the talked warned against.. so, has anyone brought this up to their witness friends and/or family?

garyneal

I asked my wife. She said "huh?"

Classic!

I asked my wife this past Sunday and she had little to say on it. It must indeed be embarrasing as knowsnothing pointed out.

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Kool-Aid Man, Is Your Army Ready For The Memorial? Where did you go?

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

jw
friends

kool-aid man, is your plan to protest the memorial still in play?

are you mia?.

garyneal

Can you get banned from this forum for talking about Rick?

If so, then ban me then.

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So what do your Jehovah's Witness friends and loved ones think of the generation teaching?

by garyneal in

after the little skit at the last assembly where one brother was asking another for understanding about the generation teaching i thought, "wow, these people will believe anything the watchtower tells them.

" the 'more mature brother' practically said verbatim everything the watchtower said as his explanation.

evidently, this is one of the sources of the increased 'murmuring' that the talked warned against.. so, has anyone brought this up to their witness friends and/or family?

garyneal

After the little skit at the last assembly where one brother was asking another for understanding about the generation teaching I thought, "Wow, these people will believe ANYTHING the Watchtower tells them." The 'more mature brother' practically said VERBATIM everything the Watchtower said as his explanation. Evidently, this is one of the sources of the increased 'murmuring' that the talked warned against.

So, has anyone brought this up to their witness friends and/or family? What is the response?

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Are You Ready for The Memorial?

by OnTheWayOut in

it's this week, folks.

i thought i might give you a new thread to vent on.

many on our forum still go to the memorial or have to answer to family about not going.

garyneal

I'm not going this year. I've supported my wife by occasionally attending meetings, going to the assemblies, and even attending the memorial from time to time. I figured that it was the least I could do since she was real good about buying gifts at Christmas, going to see my family at Thanksgiving, and she even went out and bought Easter baskets for the kids.

However, everytime I go, the kids act up and I get fussed at for not being a 'good enough' parent for keeping them quiet. I guess we have different expectations for the kids but I frankly do not expect kids to sit still for two hours or more at a meeting that is totally boring to them (and me). When I take them in the hallway, she accuses me of letting them get too wild and disturb the meeting. The people in the 'sanctuary' can hear us in the hallway according to her. I don't see where we are all THAT loud and I believe the walls must be paper thin if they can hear anything louder than a whisper FROM THE HALLWAY. We got into a really BAD argument two Sundays ago because I did not think my youngest holding a set of car keys in her hand was being 'disruptive' to the others, she downright patronized me and made me feel stupid. That was the final straw for me as I tried to be supportive of this stupid religion but I can't do it anymore.