Keep in mind that the Watchtower use to publish the year of Jerusalem's destruction occurred in 606 BCE until they discovered their own oversight of there being no year zero. Why move the date back to 607 upon this discovery instead of moving Christ's invisible return up to 1915?
garyneal
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Another reason why 1914 is WRONG
by EdenOne ineven if 607 had been the actual date of the destruction of jerusalem .... 1914 would still be wrong.
when the wts says that "7 times" equals 2 x 3,5 times of revelation = 2 x 1260 days = 2520 days > one day / one year rule = 2520 years.. now, 2520 / 7 times means that one "time" has 360 "days".
this corresponds to the lunar year.
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To those exjw's who still believe the bible is the word of God, as I do, tell me how would a JW respond to Acts 1:11
by marriedtoajw in"men of galilee, they said, why do you stand here looking looking into the sky?
this same jesus who has been taken from you into heaven will come back the same way you have "seen" him go into heaven.
" considering that jw's believe that jesus has taken kingdom power in 1914, hope i said that right, what would be their response to an orthodox christian belief that the return of jesus would be visible and not invisible who those with discerning eyes could only see.
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garyneal
There is another scriptures that speak of Christ's return being as visible as lightning in the sky. Harold Camping also claim that God's judgement came invisibly after it failed to show up visibly in May and the WT considers him a false prophet.
The invisble return of Christ also has its roots in the Second Adventist religion and Charles Taze Russell went to his grave believing that Christ returned invisibly in 1874. That belief remained with the witnesses up until around the 1940's.
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Blood transfusions and JW children in a household with a non-believer parent
by never a jw injust recently my daughter ask for permission to get baptized.
not knowing the mess that my wife's religion is, i consented.
after a lot of research, i now regret my decision.
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garyneal
Since the belief of the blood transfusions can actually cost the life of one of them, I am actually considering to meet with the elders of the congregation and expose the weakness of the doctrine from every angle possible while having my children present.
I don't know how far you are thinking of getting with them. A general rule of thumb with witnesses is to never ever discuss doctrine. They will defend it even if they know that it makes no sense. I've done this with a pioneer brother sometime back and chronicled our discussion here. If you wish to skip ahead to our 'discussion' about the blood doctrine, skip to my post number 2762 here. I've had these same discussions with my wife and even she will defend it even though I can tell I got her thinking. They will never EVER claim that the SLAVE is wrong about things. If you have not noticed yet, even when the watchtower changes a doctrine and teaches the exact opposite, they were never wrong. It is all filed under new light.
Your better bet is to try to get the kids to reason on it themselves. Ask questions but don't appear that you are trying to discredit the religion. If your daughter is already baptized then she obviously sees some significance to this religion. If she loves you then she cannot possibly believe everything they say. After all, they teach that all non witnesses will die at armageddon. If she hears this then she either does not believe it about you or she is VERY VERY concerned for you and scared witless.
Here is a video that may help you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=949n_xH9nso&list=PL7EE047005059527B
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Four Hypothetical Questions
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garyneal
Wait a minute. If you're already drawing a military pension, you have to give it up? Did I get that right?
I live in a military area and I have not heard of a single brother who was in the military in their 'previous life' giving up his pension. That's right on par with the pioneer sister who does not work and draws a disability check from wicked governments of this current system (my mother-in-law).
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Computers have successfully replaced college professors
by moshe inhttp://techcrunch.com/2013/01/15/how-californias-new-online-education-pilot-will-end-college-as-we-know-it/.
-while faculty worry about the quality of online courses, the truth is that our education system, primarily designed to test rote memorization, is built to scale and be independent of teacher interaction.
a review of research by the department of education in 2009 found that "students who took all or part of their class online performed better, on average, than those taking the same course through traditional face-to-face instruction.".
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garyneal
I think the bigger problem is that their doesn't appear to be any viable alternatives to college for most people. Most employers will not even give your resume a second thought if it does not list a college degree amongst the qualifications. If employers would allow themselves to do more outside the box thinking on how to find good talent, other alternatives may present themselves. I remember during my early college years taking technical courses in programming and using computer software thinking, "I already know this stuff and I am merely taking this course because it is required for that degree I need to make a living doing what I already enjoy doing as a hobby."
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Computers have successfully replaced college professors
by moshe inhttp://techcrunch.com/2013/01/15/how-californias-new-online-education-pilot-will-end-college-as-we-know-it/.
-while faculty worry about the quality of online courses, the truth is that our education system, primarily designed to test rote memorization, is built to scale and be independent of teacher interaction.
a review of research by the department of education in 2009 found that "students who took all or part of their class online performed better, on average, than those taking the same course through traditional face-to-face instruction.".
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garyneal
Why in bloody hell is the newest edition that frickin expensive???!!
The whole thing about college textbooks never really made that much since to me. Oftentimes, you would buy a very expensive book since it was required for the course only to find yourself seldom opening it during the class. I remember taking one course, called Navigating the Internet, and the textbook for the course was some manual teaching you how to use Netscape Navigator. I thought, "You have got to be fricking kidding me, a book teaching Netscape Navigator?!?!" I did NOT purchase that book.
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Computers have successfully replaced college professors
by moshe inhttp://techcrunch.com/2013/01/15/how-californias-new-online-education-pilot-will-end-college-as-we-know-it/.
-while faculty worry about the quality of online courses, the truth is that our education system, primarily designed to test rote memorization, is built to scale and be independent of teacher interaction.
a review of research by the department of education in 2009 found that "students who took all or part of their class online performed better, on average, than those taking the same course through traditional face-to-face instruction.".
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garyneal
They told me that when you're on your own, you have to figure everything out yourself. Sure, you can email your teacher a question, but you've got to wait to get a response and then maybe it's not clear and you have to ask again, etc. Conversely, most questions can be explained/handled in person in a fraction of the time.
I cannot argue with this as I have had experiences where I wish I could speak to the teacher outside the class beyond e-mail and the phone too. I guess in my experience though since the teacher was being broadcasted live over satellite it was easier. Those classes had two way communications which allowed us to talk to the teacher via a microphone during class. If we missed class, we could get the video tape of the class we missed (since all classes were taped). Some teachers did a role call of all the students (as well of all the satelite students) to ensure that students would not skip class during class time and only watch the tapes later. Most professors, however, did not care so long as the student did the work and mastered the class.
The third ad in this series kind of describes what we had. And it was not brought to us by AT&T.
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Computers have successfully replaced college professors
by moshe inhttp://techcrunch.com/2013/01/15/how-californias-new-online-education-pilot-will-end-college-as-we-know-it/.
-while faculty worry about the quality of online courses, the truth is that our education system, primarily designed to test rote memorization, is built to scale and be independent of teacher interaction.
a review of research by the department of education in 2009 found that "students who took all or part of their class online performed better, on average, than those taking the same course through traditional face-to-face instruction.".
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garyneal
I attended a community college from 1993 to 1995 and received my Associate's. Then I went to a university and since my university degree was different enough from my college degree (Electrical Engineering in Uni, Computer Info Systems and IT in college) I had to essentially start over. So, I attended university from 1995 to 2001.
The interesting part of the whole experience is that I drove to the community college to attend courses at the university even though the university is over 200 miles away. We were part of a project for taking university courses, getting university credits, and a university degree through satellite. We'd go to a small room with a handful of other students and watch the professor give his lecture from a remote classroom on campus. This was especially good for the navy since in some cases navy ships would simply drop anchor at some port and the students could attend these courses via satellite right on the ship.
I also took online courses at the 200, 300, and 400 levels either at this university or at another college. Two of my 200 level courses were taken online from another community college since the community college in my area was not offering them at the time. I just needed the credits to transfer to my university degree program. It was an experience as I had a mix of courses in the classroom at the community college, in the satellite rooms for the university, and online from either the university or other community colleges that were not in my area. I had to take three university lab classes throughout the course of my degree program, two of them were taken at an approved community college in a neighboring city and the third was taken online from the university.
I agree that college is way too expensive and most people either do not have the time or the inclination to go full time on a college campus. I tried going for a Master's degree back in 2009 at a nearby university and found the whole experience unpallatable. I dropped out after the first course, too expensive to park there, class itself was too expensive, and they even try to charge for things like printing documents on their printers. Perhaps I have been out of college too long but I could not help but to wonder what would be the value in obtaining this degree. The whole college thing needs to change because it has gotten too expensive for what little return you will get on the investment.
I applaud these technological advances, we need more choices and more ways to obtain our degrees because not everyone can afford to go to the traditional route at a university.
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Regarding "Scholar"---Does He Still Apologize For The Watchtower Organization Or Has He Learned...
by minimus insince he went to school?.
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garyneal
Garyneal fears that this new scholar is not one of the celebrated WT scholars who graced our presence previously. Garyneal is saddened by this turn of events. This scholar's spelling needs lots of work, Garyneal is lol.
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My 66th birthday is today!!
by Terry inonce i was little boy in fort worth, texas living with my maw maw and paw paw and mommy.. then, i was an 18 year old 6'4'' skinny 165lb religious nut being dipped in a baptismal during a local assembly.. suddenly, i was 20 and listening to a jail cell door clang behind me as a conscientious objector.. wow!
23 years old and put on parole until my 6 years sentence was ended!
i got married to a nice jw girl and had 3 kids!.
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garyneal
Happy Birthday Terry
